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Obama finally decides to assist Putin against ISIS

 
 
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 12:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
I'm embarrassed, and I'm pissed. Why has this country chosen to venerate false gods. Isn't life difficult enough, we need to vote these frauds into office?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 01:56 am
Let's just remind ourselves of how Lash started this thread.

Lash wrote:

Who or whatever was a roadblock to sensible foreign policy has been removed from Obama's sphere of influence. Finally, he's doing the right thing.


This isn't the first time Assad has used chemical weapons on children. It's good to know that Lash thinks supporting someone who commits this sort of atrocity is "doing the right thing."
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 02:10 am
Assad is doing this because he knows he's going to get away with it. Putin is far too committed to propping him up and despite Trump's platitudes and hand wringing, his default position is to lick Putin's arse.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 10:34 am
@izzythepush,
Trump can't show his admiration for Putin one day, then reverse himself on another. Trump does't know how to admit he made a mistake. He's beholding to his own self image - good or bad.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 02:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Assad is a monster there can be no lasting peace in Syria while he's in charge. He let most of the IS leadership out of prison right at the beginning of the uprising just so he could discredit the opposition. Tactically he's a bloody genius, and now he's got both Putin and Trump dancing to his tune.

The longer this goes on the more likely ordinary Sunni Muslims are going to start seeing IS as the lesser of two evils.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:24 pm
Although the Obama administration was loath to intervene militarily in Syria after the government's first gas attack against its own people, they would have gone in with the support of the US Congress and asked for their support, so the admin. went to them. It was clear that the Congress what with its own loathing for intervention and its obstructionist approach to the Obama administration would not have supported him, so he dropped the plan.

In retrospect, a no-fly zone would have resulted in a stalemate between the rebels and the Syrian government but it would have prevented more attacks from Assad against civilians and it would possibly have assisted the rebels in countering ISIS advancements in that area of Syria.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:29 pm
@InfraBlue,
It looks like Trump sees the truth that Assad has "NO PLACE" in Syria
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:46 pm
@farmerman,
The problem with Trump is we don't know what his words really means. He lies so often, he lies upon his lies.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-list?utm_term=.acE0qxGW9w#.feerZ21VGn

izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
And we don't know what Putin has on him, and he's got something alright.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:52 pm
@farmerman,
How he will deal with that truth is the million dollar question right now.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 03:55 pm
@InfraBlue,
Im making popcorn now.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2017 04:01 pm
@izzythepush,
Probably quite a bit on Trump's dealings with foreign countries.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2017 05:28 am
Ostensibly in the least, Trump and Putin are mapping out a ceasefire. Safe zones discussed.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/news/2017/05/trump-putin-discuss-syrian-conflict-phone-170503043732209.html
glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2017 11:48 pm
@Lash,
Wow, this is great, lets make Putin the ruler of the US and none of will ever need to vote again. Do you think before you write? You must be a world history expert.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2017 11:54 pm
@glitterbag,
We will still have to vote. It will be required, but the choices will be limited.
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