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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 11:06 pm
Here comes the bride and bridegroom.
Here comes John and Jones.

Should the verb be "come" in both sentences? Or is either verb correct?

Thanks.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2016 12:42 am
Come should used in both. Comes is singular and is used for one thing or person, and come is plural and is used for more than one thing.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2016 09:26 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgh9XTkQTDI
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2016 03:59 pm
@tanguatlay,
Tes is right of course but in certain contexts John and Jones might be considered a unit
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2016 04:10 pm
@dalehileman,
Quote:
in certain contexts John and Jones might be considered a unit

Please provide at least one example.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2016 11:54 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Quote:
one example


Bill and Barnum's of course, Tes, constitutes the majority opinion, but look out, here comes John and Jones

On tech grounds I suppose you could insist on the pos'pos'
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2016 01:07 am
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

Quote:
one example


Bill and Barnum's of course, Tes, constitutes the majority opinion, but look out, here comes John and Jones

On tech grounds I suppose you could insist on the pos'pos'
Hi Tes yeux noirs, do you agree? Thanks.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2016 11:25 am
@tanguatlay,
Quote:
do you agree?
Yea Tes how 'bout'at
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2016 01:05 pm
There are phrases which look like plural subjects, but which are in fact singular - e.g. names of businesses - Barnum and Bailey (a circus), names of food dishes e.g. baked beans, but two people or things are plural when explicitly named or mentioned separately - the bride and groom, the mother and father, the brother and sister, John and James, the cat and the dog.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2016 07:11 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Thanks, Tes yeux noirs and Dalehileman.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jul, 2016 04:34 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
I've asked dahl to stop posting on grammar threads. His answers are invariably confusing if not plain wrong. He does far more harm than good. If one does not speak English as a first language they may actually believe his ill informed nonsense.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jul, 2016 04:36 am
@tanguatlay,
Tes yeux noirs knows what he's talking about. Listen to him, pay no notice to dahl or select my tutor, neither of them knows what they're talking about. If they answer a question correctly it's more by luck than judgement.
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2017 10:46 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
When it comes to there/here/where, in informal speech and writing, English native speakers at all levels often use a singular verb with a plural referent.

Here's your keys. // Where's your mom and dad? // There's two things I want to discuss.
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