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Donald Trump

 
 
gollum
 
Reply Sun 29 May, 2016 11:58 am
I read that working-class white men support Donald Trump for president. I believe this is substantially because those men have experienced stagnant wages.

However, many black men and women have also experienced stagnant wages.

Why are black people not supporting Trump?

I believe that Trump made a derogatory remark about Mexicans. Has he made any derogatory remarks about African Americans?
 
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2016 01:22 pm
How much time have you got?

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Workers at Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey, have accused him of racism over the years. The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.

The first-person account of at least one black Trump casino employee in Atlantic City suggests the racist practices were consistent with Trump’s personal behavior toward black workers.

“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, told the New Yorker for a September article. “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back.”

Trump disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, according to a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83
gollum
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2016 01:36 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Thank you. An eye-opener.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2016 01:54 pm
He has made remarks about "Japs".
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2016 06:43 pm
@gollum,
He refused to reject an endorsement by the Ku Klux Klan.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 05:46 am
Black people put a lot of time and effort into making their hair look good while Trump's syrup is really taking the piss.
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 08:51 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes yeux noirs wrote:

He has made remarks about "Japs".



So have many other Americans. Did you forget, what day is today?
Miller
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 08:59 am
@gollum,
gollum wrote:

I read that working-class white men support Donald Trump for president. I believe this is substantially because those men have experienced stagnant wages.


This is doubtful. My plumber makes more per year than my dentist and my internist. Recall, that my plumber is a blue color working man, who has his house paid off and his kids ( all 4 of them) all equiped with a 4 year College education, which by the way, was not paid off with the help of college loans.

It was paid off by my plumber's hard work ( also called LABOR).

What I wonder, is why do so many folks turn up their noses at the term" working class"? Do they know , they are as much a bigot as you claim Trump is?
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 09:09 am
@Miller,
Some plumbers and electricians have their own business, run it very well and have upper middle class or higher incomes. Plumbers and electricians who work for someone else can do okay, but not necessarily as good as the successful plumbing/electrical businessman. Working class can include some plumbers and electricians, but it also includes retail workers, factory workers, etc.
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gollum
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 09:35 am
@Miller,
Miller-

Thank you.

I did not claim that Trump is a bigot. However, Trump did make a statement prejudging Mexican Americans and he did refuse to denounce the Ku Klux Klan.

The relative income of your plumber versus your dentist, does not shed light on whether Trump is a bigot.
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 11:03 am
@Miller,
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Did you forget, what day is today?

May 30th, and what of it? What does that have to do with the topic of Trump's bigotry? Or anything else? (I am British, and we fought the Axis as much as Americans did.) It is wrong and stupid to talk about "Japs", "Krauts", "Wops" etc. (The Hungarians got off lightly, axis-enemy-epithet-wise, as did the Bulgarians, Romanians, Thais and Yugoslavs; mind you these latter were only in the Axis for 2 days - Brits called them "Jugs" but that was not really an insult).


gollum
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 11:46 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes yeux noirs-

Thank you.

Perhaps it depends on context and intent (e.g., Aussie).
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2016 01:14 pm
@gollum,
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Perhaps it depends on context and intent (e.g., Aussie).

I guess, in Britain we say Aussie and Kiwi, but only ever Canadian as far as I know, never "Canuck".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2016 06:27 pm
@gollum,
Trump also said something about "banning all Muslims from entering our country." If that isn't bigotry, I've been misinformed most of my life.
gollum
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2016 03:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter-

Thank you.

I disagree with Trump in that matter.

However, I think in order to take reasonable actions sufficient to protect our own security, we should refuse to admit from entering the U.S. any person whose identity we can not independently verify to assure ourselves that he/she is not a terrorist.

I admit that the persons that would block from entering the U.S. has substantial overlap with the persons that Trump would deny entry into the U.S.
engineer
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2016 04:11 pm
@gollum,
You can't ever independently verify that someone is not going to be a terrorist, so under your plan you would ban all people including US citizens from entering the country. After all, the Orlando shooter would have passed every test you would have devised.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jun, 2016 05:44 pm
@gollum,
I believe our country already does that when anyone enters the US.
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gollum
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jun, 2016 06:08 am
@engineer,
engineer-

Thank you. I agree.

However, I believe the U.S. can make a reasonable judgment based on available personal history for most persons in well-functioning countries.
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