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The Future President, Hillary Clinton

 
 
Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 08:56 pm
Since the "when is she going to give up" thread is clearly not applicable, here's a new thread.

I'll start it of with this link from NPR discussing what kind of Senator she was.

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Hillary Clinton admits she's not a rock star on the campaign trail. She can't communicate like Bill Clinton. She can't give a speech like Barack Obama, and she doesn't draw thousands of supporters to rallies like her primary opponent, Bernie Sanders. This is how she put it at a recent CNN debate.

HILLARY CLINTON: I am not a natural politician in case you haven't noticed, like my husband or President Obama. So I have a view that I just have to do the best I can, get the results I can, make a difference in people's lives.

DAVIS: While Clinton's particular set of skills has not wowed on the campaign trail, there was a time and place where her personality and governing style were widely praised, even among her political opponents, the United States Congress.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:10 pm
@engineer,
It is funny that you are the person starting this thread, Engineer. This seems like a thread that someone like me would start.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:13 pm
@engineer,
I heard that on NPR. It was interesting hearing the GOP Senators praise her for her ability to work with others and how she really knew her stuff and was a real policy wonk.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:20 pm
@parados,
Because the GOP loves her hawkish tendencies, distain for black people, and total disregard for the environment.

She'll get A LOT done, it'll just be Republican things.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:23 pm
@Lash,
Leave it to you to not bother reading the article or listening to it. It must be rather nice living in your fantasy world.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:23 pm
@engineer,
Warning: This post contains spoilers.... if you want to watch the election and first couple of years of the Clinton administration unfold without knowing the outcome, then read no further.

Clinton has already made it pretty clear how she plans to govern. I trust her in this. Hers will be a administration of incremental change.

She will largely continue the domestic policies of Barack Obama. She will stand up very strongly for women's issues. She will take the established Democratic stance on issues like gun control and immigration. I suspect that the left wing of the party will be disappointed in her immigration actions (as they are with Obama's actions). She will be receptive to groups like Black Lives Matter but will not do nearly as much as they want. She will push back on them to act reasonably.

She will choose a policy initiative to focus on in the next couple of months (like Obama chose healthcare). It will be something that fits safely in the mainstream view of the Democratic base. She will stick with this initiative through her first couple of years in office.

She will choose a safe moderate male running mate who may speak Spanish. She will win comfortably with more than 300 EVs. The debates with Trump will be fun to watch. She will back him into a corner repeatedly.

She will be more hawkish then Obama on foreign policy. She will be willing to use American military power in the Middle East (maybe Syria) and will push on Iran (much more than Obama has). She will have a closer relationship with Netanyahu to the dismay of Palestinians. The number of US troops in hostile situations will increase.

Her relationship with Republicans will continue to be very contentious, and the country will continue to split along party lines with a huge rift between the two.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 09:41 pm
@Lash,
I guess you will be tickled reddish-pink.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2016 10:10 pm
@Lash,
Your logic continues to fail. You and her other neoliberal lackeys will be grinning and culpable.

I'll be cursing you every stupid anti-earth, ant-progressive step she takes.
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 12:32 pm
Insiders in swing states see Clinton crushing Trump.
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 01:14 pm
George Takei on Bernie or Bust.

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While this primary, at times, has felt damaging, with many a harsh word leveled by both sides — ultimately, we Democrats know that a bit of a tussle isn't a bad thing. It makes us stronger, keeps us sharp. And really, it's like a family squabble. For only family, those very close to us, can truly get under our skin, but remember this too: it's precisely because we respect and like each other that the words and criticism sting as much as they do.

But here's the other thing about family — we come together when threatened and come together we will in November. In case you need a bit more convincing, there are many fundamental things both Bernie and Hillary agree on and would both work towards once in the White House.

Expand medicare and the Affordable Care Act
Raise the minimum wage
Protect a woman's right to choose
Fund Planned Parenthood
Make college much more affordable
Keep the church and state separate
Protect Social Security
Fight for LGBT rights and equality
Lead the world in combating climate change
Pass immigration reform with a path to citizenship
Raise taxes on the top earners

And importantly, both would appoint justices to the Supreme Court who share compassionate progressive values to stop the Conservatives from undoing decades of gains. Bernie himself has said, “On her worst day Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and president than the Republican candidate on his best day.” If he believes that, his supporters can too. If your state has yet to vote, please do make your voice heard for the candidate you prefer. But remember, come November, Vote Blue No Matter Who.


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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 08:09 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Your logic continues to fail. You and her other neoliberal lackeys will be grinning and culpable.

I'll be cursing you every stupid anti-earth, ant-progressive step she takes.


Lash, I think you are being hard on Lash, she's not very bright so you should give Lash a break.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 08:30 pm
I have many qualms re Hillary the joyful hawk, but I have to vote for her, I will.
I also have qualms re Sanders, re competence.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 06:20 am
Gov. Tomblin endorses Clinton

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CHARLESTON — Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin endorsed Hillary Clinton for president Friday, April 29, according to a press release.

Tomblin shared reasoning for his endorsement:

“Although I remain concerned about some of Secretary Clinton's positions on fossil fuels, I believe she is the best choice to unite the Democratic Party and, after being elected president in November, our country. I have had discussions with former President Bill Clinton and representatives from Secretary Clinton's campaign and believe Hillary Clinton is committed to working with us to diversify West Virginia's economy while continuing to find ways to use our abundant coal and natural gas to power the nation.”
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:10 am
Hey thanks for this thread Engineer. If I had seen it, I wouldn't have started The Pro Hillary Thread. Maybe this forum can bear having TWO pro-Hillary threads?
The articles about the Senators opinions of Hillary and about George Takei's take on Blue-or-bust are great.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 08:01 am
@snood,
Who doesn't love spiking the football (or, for that matter, having the football spiked in their face)?

Hillary beat those sexist Bernie-Bro socialist assholes, now let's make them wallow in it.
snood
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 08:06 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Who doesn't love spiking the football (or, for that matter, having the football spiked in their face)?

Hillary beat those sexist Bernie-Bro socialist assholes, now let's make them wallow in it.


Who's boasting, spiking or the other stuff you said?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 08:27 am
@maxdancona,
I thought I'd share my feelings on this.

Most people at least celebrate what they consider a victory. It's human nature. There is a fine line between gloating and celebrating - and I have to admit I don't know where that line is because very recently Bob referred to one of my responses as gloating on some other matter - and I really didn't think what I'd done could accurately be described as gloating.

More to the point, when I was a Bush supporter and he won the presidency, we actually had a thread here wherein the resident Democrats asked non-Democrats to stay away. I think it was billed as the Gnashing of Teeth thread or some such.

I thought that was worse than gloating: the inability to countenance opposing ideas or feelings. But, really, this all seems to be a moot issue. The downthumbing of nearly everything for every reason just makes it seem like a collection of people talking with their fingers in their ears.

Anyway. The Bernie candidacy is not yet over.

Cheers.
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Miller
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 03:50 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

distain for black people...


So if you're correct, then please tell us, why so many Afro-Americans( both males and females), love Mrs Clinton, support Mrs. Clinton and Lord knows these folks will run to the Polls and vote for her.

You need to visit the USA someday and get your brain facted up!

Lash
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 03:56 pm
@Miller,
There is no logical factin' that can be done in that particular vector.
Sort of like Stockholm Syndrome...
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2016 06:43 am
Hillary lost the few-point-margin, and is now neck and neck with the Donald...not that I really believe polls anymore. This is what the MSM is fronting.

How hated must she be to be losing to that man?
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