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Kerry can't resist inserting a Nam story.

 
 
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 02:55 am
Finn d'Abuzz wrote:
Because I enjoy it, and it helps me clarify, for myself, my opinion on issues..


fair enough. i wasn't beating on you, i just wondered why you would do something that you seemed to find meaningless. i, for one, don't think i can change the world. i'll be happy if i can get a person to think, and maybe question their beliefs.

from there, they are on their own.

happy cogitating
Laughing
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 03:04 am
Brand X wrote:
Prolly, but did you know Kerry was in Vietnam?


only about as much as i know bush wasn't.

don't blame me, the right wingers are the ones that that think it's so damn important. my father, a combat veteran of world war II and korea doesn't think it means that much.

but then he's going to vote dem for the first time since roosevelt this election.
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Chuckster
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 03:18 am
X? Are you saying something negative about Kerry, our future POTUS?
Aside from marrying a billion dollars (that is awesome!) does he have a platform besides " I hate this other guy"?
Also, how come all these roomies know so much about booze,drugs and drying out?
Is there any truth to the rumor that Edwards will be the NIKE celebrity VP spokesman?
In your opinion,is McCain/Fiengold constitutional?
Is a description of our sex organs still optional?
Thank You for all that You Do.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 03:49 am
Smog : Solid, thoughtful posts are as rare as perfect summer days and just as inspiring. Thanks for being here.

Joe
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smog
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 06:23 am
Thanks, Joe...
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:02 am
Actually, my advice to go see F/911 amongst friends and family boosted Moore's ticket sales at least $200.00. Why all this focus on what impact anything written on these forums having any influence on the outside world, let alone in our own ranks? I suppose all the favorable critical acclaim for the film are all commercials.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 09:26 pm
I read a lot of the posts on the forum as I have my computer tuned in to a2k when I am home and check things out between at home tasks and interests; I appreciate a lot of posters, including some I disagree with substantially, for turn of phrase, cogent argument, sheer wit, and occasional wisdom. In a way, if we post here over time, it is a diary of who we were, whether we meant it to be that or not.

The anthropologists of the future are going to have a big job with this data.
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tony2481
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 09:55 pm
"I don't own an SUV"

"The family has it. I don't have it"

By John Kerry, April 3rd 2004 when asked about the SUV he drives
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:01 pm
ossobuco,

you have a corgi !!!

fantastic. we've had 2. both pembrokes. the happiest dogs in the world.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:04 pm
smog wrote:
Finn d'Abuzz wrote:
It takes a real Narcissist to believe his or her postings have even a remotely measurable impact on the world around us.


Granted, I'm a writer, and most of my posts are in the word games, English, riddles, music, and original writing forums, so maybe my opinion here is a little different from the norm. But, when I post, I hope that my posts are making someone else's life more interesting in some way; and, if I am very successful, I hope to actually provide a new way of thinking or perspective for, again, someone. If numerous people read, understand, and appreciate what I have said, then I have gone past my expectations. Again, maybe I see things too artisically, but if I can affect someone else's day in a positive manner, then I have made a "remotely measurable impact on the world" in the best way I can, and I will notice that change, as will the people with whom I share my thoughts.

Maybe I am not changing election results or movie sales or anything like that, but I hope that my posts can serve to impact the world somehow, and I can assure you that I am not a narcissist. If anything, I often suffer from an inferiority complex. And, I have resolved to stay out of most political debates, but I still decided to make this post, although I am not furthering the political discussion at all.


Smog, if it pleases you to feel that you have had a remotely measurable impact on the world around us by entertaining someone with your posts, then who am I to nay say your pleasure?

Perhaps you believe that a butterfly flapping it's wings in Asia leads to hurricanes in the Atlantic.

I continue to maintain that it is a conceit to even hope for numerous people to, in some way, be moved by your words.

If your postings please, inspire, or challenge a single person, they are of value. The overwhelming majority of us live very contained lives which while not having far reaching influence, can have enormous value.

The measure of the value of our lives is not determined by the number of people who read our poems or hear our songs.
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Chuckster
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:04 pm
Don't get all "girly" with this bum Ossobuco! I'm just an over da hill pug with a soft spot for broads who know where Gretna Green is but have never spent an "overniter" there.
You are quite a piece a work, Baby!
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tony2481
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:05 pm
I don't mind SUV's. We have real problems on the roads these days, like those people who drive mini-vans.

Its not a big deal Johnny, if you want to drive the damn car, drive it. The enviro-nuts are going to vote for you anyway. Besides, you could always say you need the SUV for your car-pool to the ski lodge.

Not only is Johnny a fibber, but he is not even pragmatic.
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Chuckster
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:12 pm
Don'tOM: Wrong Suck-up. As dear as they are ( Corgis) Flat -coated Retievers will take your heart and stomp 'at Sucker flat.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 12:00 am
Hi, Don't Tread, I knew I liked you...

Pacco is a pembroke, as I guess you can tell; was found walking down the highway and taken to the humane society, where no one but me ever asked about him.
S' my pal.

Excuse tangent, carry on...
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 12:41 am
Quote:
The measure of the value of our lives is not determined by the number of people who read our poems or hear our songs.

Unless you are a writer, then it matters just a hair or two.

Tony: you don't want to start a 'dumb-ass things your candidate has said' battle here, George's list of intended and unintended flubs, blubs and burblings is way too long. Welcome to the fray.

Joe
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 01:16 am
Chuckster wrote:
Don'tOM: Wrong Suck-up. As dear as they are ( Corgis) Flat -coated Retievers will take your heart and stomp 'at Sucker flat.



aw dude, guess ya never had a corgi. they are unreal. a jester, a night watchman and master of debate, all in one. pretty damn fearless, i tell ya.

but retrievers are pretty great as well. i had a black lab named "zoso". what can i say, it was the '70s. "hey hey mama, say the way ya move!"
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 01:18 am
ossobuco wrote:

Excuse tangent, carry on...


no worries. theres always time to talk corgis. ask one, they'll tell you so.


Laughing
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smog
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 02:53 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Quote:
The measure of the value of our lives is not determined by the number of people who read our poems or hear our songs.

Unless you are a writer, then it matters just a hair or two.

I like you, Joe.

Anyway, Finn, people don't need to be "moved by [my] words;" I just hope that, every now and then, they will read them. Although, while I'm on the topic, it isn't conceited to hope that someday people will be moved by something you write--it's wishful thinking.

Sadly, though, I don't think much else is going to come from our little part of this discussion.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 03:10 am
smog wrote:


Anyway, Finn, people don't need to be "moved by [my] words;" I just hope that, every now and then, they will read them. Although, while I'm on the topic, it isn't conceited to hope that someday people will be moved by something you write--it's wishful thinking.


a tree that falls in a forest makes a sound whether anyone is there to hear it or not.

if you feel something, write it down. if ya can sing it, do it. if ya can't sing, don't worry. never stopped dylan or neil young. peter murphy or liam gallagher either, for that matter.

have to admit, i wish it would have stopped ashcroft though. i'd tell him to keep his day job, but he sucks at that too.

Very Happy
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2004 07:41 pm
More on Kerry's flying dog fabrication.

Quote:
"One day as our Swift Boat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat," he continued. "After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA (missing in action). Several minutes of frantic search followed, after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog."
Said Mr. Kerry: "It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed, confused but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrol."
J.J. Scheele, program director of Humane USA, confirmed yesterday that her organization did, in fact, receive the above statement from the Kerry campaign.
No military records on Mr. Kerry's Web site, which aides say is a complete accounting, mention a mine exploding under his boat or any dog. The only report of a mine detonating "near" Mr. Kerry's PCF 94 was March 13, 1969, when Mr. Kerry says he was injured and a man knocked overboard.


Source
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