australia wrote:What happened with the murder of Fortuyn and Van Gogh was an absolute disgrace. I hope countries who have a low muslim population are keeping abreast of this news and understanding the effects of sustained muslim immigration.
Pim Fortuyn was murdered by a white environmental activist. No Muslim was even involved. So his murder doesn't say jackshit about "the effects of sustained muslim immigration".
and Pim Foutuyn's death was not a big loss to many people in the Netherlands.
Nimh, you destroyed my argument with factual content!!!
australia wrote:Nimh, you destroyed my argument with factual content!!!
Reading the news and facts before would have done good :wink:
I tend to do that. I know it's annoying ... someone called me a wet blanket the other day ... ;-)
Yes, it is annoying. I go to all the trouble of putting together a good theory and you come along and destroy it with "facts".
Okay Walter, I will take that on board and try to do some more research.
You know me though, sometimes I am too lazy to research. I bullshit up a theory and hope the facts back them up. Once in a while they do.
nimh wrote:australia wrote:What happened with the murder of Fortuyn and Van Gogh was an absolute disgrace. I hope countries who have a low muslim population are keeping abreast of this news and understanding the effects of sustained muslim immigration.
Pim Fortuyn was murdered by a white environmental activist. No Muslim was even involved. So his murder doesn't say jackshit about "the effects of sustained muslim immigration".
The murderer of Pim Fortuyn was triggered because he thought that Pim Fortuyn was a threat to muslims.
Somewhere, somewhere in the articles above I thought I read that the next parliamentary elections are in 2007. 2007?
Correct. Like elsewhere, too, general elections in the Netherlands are to be hold any 4 years. Normally.
realjohnboy wrote:Somewhere, somewhere in the articles above I thought I read that the next parliamentary elections are in 2007. 2007?
Yeah, in May 2007. But because of Wilders the cabinet only got a 77/150 majority in the parlement.
Even a small majority is better than a minority government (althought such works -kind of- in e.g. Canada).
Forgive me on being a little slow on this. After the US election, I got into learning (thanks to msolga et al) all about Australian politics. I look forward to
finding out more about Dutch goings-on. -rjb-
yes, i would say that the minority (liberal) government works reasonably well in canada. since the election only took place in the fall, no party wants the government to fall and cause another election. so all parties kind of walk on eggs. they all make a lot of noise about a lot of issues : gay marriage, sponsorship scandal(yes, we do have scandals in canada !), space weapons(weather to get into bed with the U.S. or not) ... but no party has so far threatened to cause the government to fall over any of these issues. the term used by the opposition parties is : "to co-operate as much as possible with the government without violating our principles" - wonderful phrase, isn't it ? i would say that majority governments quite often get arrogant and think that they do not owe the electorate any explanation for their actions. hbg
realjohnboy wrote:Forgive me on being a little slow on this. After the US election, I got into learning (thanks to msolga et al) all about Australian politics. I look forward to
finding out more about Dutch goings-on. -rjb-
It's gonna be interessesting. I think it will be a real battlefield next election. Dutch people are on the move after the dead of Theo van Gogh.
Welcome to A2K, Sidder. I think that you and our good friend Nimh may lead us in an interesting
discussion of the political scene in your country.
Is 2007 etched in stone, or do yall have a system (like the Brits) where there can be earlier elections
after a parliamentary vote of "no confidence" in the
current administration? Thank you. -rjb-