real life wrote:timberlandko wrote:What part of "Planned Parenthood is a counseling and referal service, not a medical provider" don't you understand? Planned Parenthood does not perform abortions, for fee or for free. Only suitably acreditted and licensed medical professionals perform legal abortions,. Planned Parenthood is not an acreditted, licensed medical professional, it is a counseling and referal service.
Now, one more time, what vested financial interest does Planned Parenthood have in keeping abortion legal and profitable? Lets see the investment nexus.
Uh, Timber.............what is this?
http://www.ppscm.org/services.html
Thats a list of products and services provided or referred, among which are physician-directed prescriptions and surgical proceedures, available in many instances at prices or fees well below those of the for-profit pharmacy and medical establishments (a further, and significant, inconvenience to your thesis). It shows no vested financial interest in keeping abortion legal or profitable. Show me the investment nexus.
Now, on to other things you get wrong.
real life wrote: cicerone imposter wrote:Frank, These people will never wake up from their stupor; their brains have been forever altered. No matter what doctors and scientists say about an embryo, they continue to insist they are babies. It's hopeless.
Doctors tell us that there is a heartbeat and brainwaves at a very early stage in development.
This is not a protoplasm stuck to a host, Imposter.
Read the research of fetal pain experienced during saline abortions when the poisonous solution is inhaled into the lungs and chemically burns the victim.
Read about the fetal pain experienced during D&C abortions when the butchery is perpetrated by a cutting instrument being inserted into the womb and slicing away, slowly and agonizingly dismembering the victim until death occurs.
You ought to listen to what doctors say. But you will probably have selective hearing at this point.
If you were to put a dog down in the same fashion that these procedures occur, you would face the prospect of jail time.
But you have completely refused to defend these procedures for one simple reason. They are totally indefensible and everybody knows it.
You are in huge denial and cannot even bring yourself to describe the pregnant woman as a "mother" lest it make plain that we are talking about human beings. Your cowardly use of the word "host" is inexcusable.
Defend these procedures if you can. Tell everybody how you yourself would be proud to perform one of these ghastly bloody procedures and afterward wrap the dismembered victim's arms, legs, torso, feet, hands, skull, ears, toes and fingers in a black garbage sack, taking it out to the dumpster in the alley yourself.
Go on, say it.
real life, the thought occurs you may be operating at a functional disadvantage, in that you so far have displayed no concept of the form and structure of proper, legitmate argument. Though your core proposition is founded in (and thus invaldated by so being) petitio principii, we'll let that slide for the moment, and just examine your above-quoted, substance-free, logical-fallacy-laden reply to reply to c.i.
At first glance, and listing the just the most obvious fallacies, alphabetically, we have argumentum ad culturam, argumentum ad ignorantiam, argumentum ad misericordiam, argumentum ad nauseam, and argumentum ad populum.
I suggest you learn to argue. While such endeavor might be entirely novel to you, it likely would be of great personal benefit were you to look into and familiarize yourself with logic, forensics, and critical thinking. Understanding and suitably employing those tools is infinitely more effective a means of convincing others, particularly reasonable, rational, educated, logical-thinking others, of your point than is persisting in methodology which exposes your proposition not only to dismissal but ridicule.
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. Fac ut vivas. Die dulci freure.
Vah! Denuone latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.
