Which Religion is the One True Religion?

dyslexia wrote:

Well, I surely can't speak for Frank in this matter, but yes indeed I do adocate a religious cleansing of the universe, (as we know it) and the sooner the better., My motto is "the only good son/daughter of Abraham is one that is now in heaven and not on earth."

You spoke for me quite well, Dys.

We can hope they will grow up...but that does not seem to be the way things will go. All-out war on religion is the only solution that seems practical. And I hope we engage in it soon.

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Even this ono who speaks harsh,is divine!
Yes Gog is even amuse with such individuals.
It is very difficult to understand God!...
But there is a right conduct for those who really want to know about the secrets and the mistery of life.
Rightousness is a strong auto-discipline- maturity of the thoughts,control of the speech(vocabulary),self regulation of impulses and animal instincts,vegetarism,detachment from all worldly attractions...
Some young souls would like to gouvern the world here!... Very Happy

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Frank and dys, You fight a losing battle - when the president pushes his religious beliefs on the rest of mankind. 1. Bring democracy to the Middle East (to override Muslim values with christian ones) . This war, according to Rummy, may last up to 12 years (or more). 2. Limits on stem cell research. We are falling behind in this important science. 3. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Legal discrimination based on bible teachings. 4. Provide government funding to religious organizations. and 5. "Every life is precious" except for all the children in this country that lacks health insurance. It's more important to save one brain-damaged woman than to provide for our children, because they thought it more politically advantageous.

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Well all that and I suffer from aphasia although I find it immensely preferable to suffering from glossolalia.

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The fact that they are well-intentioned ignorant, dangerous, superstitious, fairytale believing, dupes giving aid to people who do more harm than good for humanity and the planet....

...does not in any way mitigate that they are ignorant, dangerous, superstitious, fairytale believing, dupes giving aid to people who do more harm than good for humanity and the planet.

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A double amen.

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Religions remind humanity of the interconnectedness of humanity and God - even if they define God as an old man with a beard upstairs who watches everything you do; and does not like most of what you do. It is a simplistic view, but it reminds humanity that we are not alone, that there is more to life than the immediate needs of the physical body, that life has a spiritual basis and is to be lived always on a higher and higher turn of the spiral. That is the strength and value of the organized religious groups. They protect the young. I do not mean little children but the young souls who otherwise might waste many incarnations in useless, not to say dangerously destructive, lives. That framework protects, even if there comes a point when it is outgrown. The protective mechanism of mother- or father-church is eventually outgrown; it is no longer needed. The person usually revolts; he may give up the entire idea of God for years, until by himself, through meditation, he makes the connecting link with the soul. Very Happy

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Who is this "well-intentioned ignorant, dangerous, superstitious, fairytale believing, dupe?"

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shiyacic aleksandar wrote:

Religions remind humanity of the interconnectedness of humanity and God - even if they define God as an old man with a beard upstairs who watches everything you do; and does not like most of what you do.
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No it doesn't. It reminds humanity of what the adherents are guessing about the nature of REALITY.

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It is a simplistic view.....

Extremely so!

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...but it reminds humanity that we are not alone, that there is more to life than the immediate needs of the physical body, that life has a spiritual basis...

This is a guess of yours. Every indication is that you do not know if life has a spiritual basis or not.

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... and is to be lived always on a higher and higher turn of the spiral.

I have no idea of what the hell that means.

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That is the strength and value of the organized religious groups.

What is? Your guesses?

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They protect the young. I do not mean little children but the young souls who otherwise might waste many incarnations in useless, not to say dangerously destructive, lives.

More guesswork...and a great deal of wishful thinking.

If I were you...when defending religion....don't ever use the expression "protect the young"....no matter how you qualify it. Someone might be eating while reading....and choke on their food.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Who is this "well-intentioned ignorant, dangerous, superstitious, fairytale believing, dupe?"

lol :wink:

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The idea of a Christ Who comes from the sky, from some mythical heaven; that the clouds are going to open and He is going to come down in a long white robe; to my mind all this is ludicrous. It does not tie up with our modern scientific knowledge, of human psychology, of the facts of nature and of other religions. I believe that in postulating this view of the Christ, the Churches have separated humanity from the Christ.

They have made Him an impossibly remote figure, whereas He is an example - He should be an example - to mankind. But as a transcendent, divine figure, cut off from all mankind, as a God somewhere up there in heaven, He no longer serves as an example. The idea of Christ as a man, living now on the planet; as a great evolved Being, one of many such, the most evolved, but one of many - 'the eldest in a great family of brothers' - makes it possible for us to realise that one day we shall be like Him. In fact, He said so. He said: 'One day you will do greater things than I have done'.
Rolling Eyes

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dyslexia wrote:

Well, I surely can't speak for Frank in this matter, but yes indeed I do adocate a religious cleansing of the universe, (as we know it) and the sooner the better., My motto is "the only good son/daughter of Abraham is one that is now in heaven and not on earth."

Hi D,

If you could go back in history, you would have wiped out a large percentage of the American populace over the years, including probably at least a few of your ancestors. So you wouldn't even have been born.

Real smart move on your part.

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Well real life we all have a bear to cross but in the end, my not having been born would be a small price to pay for a universe without the arrogant violence bigotry and banal ignorance of the past 1000's of years perpetuated by the sons/daughters of Abraham. I'm not quite arrogant enough to think I was needed on this earth to fulfill dogs plan. And you?

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dyslexia wrote:

Well real life we all have a bear to cross but in the end, my not having been born would be a small price to pay for a universe without the arrogant violence bigotry and banal ignorance of the past 1000's of years perpetuated by the sons/daughters of Abraham. I'm not quite arrogant enough to think I was needed on this earth to fulfill dogs plan. And you?

Way ta go, Dys. Twisted Evil

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Frank Apisa wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
Well, I surely can't speak for Frank in this matter, but yes indeed I do adocate a religious cleansing of the universe, (as we know it) and the sooner the better., My motto is "the only good son/daughter of Abraham is one that is now in heaven and not on earth."

You spoke for me quite well, Dys.

We can hope they will grow up...but that does not seem to be the way things will go. All-out war on religion is the only solution that seems practical. And I hope we engage in it soon.

I cannot say that I am surprised. You defended your position with the same rationale that Hitler used in killing the Jews, i.e. it was for the good of the species.

All your talk about what a danger religious folks are -- and look who's ready to fire up the ovens.

Your God-complex should not surprise anyone who has read your rants.

GIGO.

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hey real life, give it up to the virgin, you ain't begun to see one of my rants. I make Frank look like the alter boy he shoulda been. (Do you prefer natural gas or do you prefer LP?)

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"I cannot say that I am surprised. You defended your position with the same rationale that Hitler used in killing the Jews, i.e. it was for the good of the species."

Is that the best you can do? Compare dys to Hitler? You christians have done your share of atrocities, so quit sitting on the stage of innocence. That's exactly what makes religious folks dangerous to humanity. They keep pointing at other people, and think that excuses them from their own atrocities against mankind. Your sick poisoned mind that makes you think you are superior as a result of your religion is dangerous all all man kind.

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each religion can't even agree amonst itself as to what its own belief system is so if it doesn't have a definitive belief system then it can't be definitively "true"

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clear, They all use the torah, bible and the koran to interpret them any way they please, because there's nothing consistent in how it can be interpreted. They are so confused, they think their soul will be saved in their subjective belief system. Some will say that just because somebody calls themselves a christian doesn't make them a christian. I say, "amen." None are! Even the pope that sits in Rome is a homophobic bigot. I remember a time when catholics were told not to eat meat on Fridays. Several decades ago, they overruled that dogma. Nice christians are now allowed to eat meat on Fridays. Make sense? Doesn't to me!

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real life wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
Well, I surely can't speak for Frank in this matter, but yes indeed I do adocate a religious cleansing of the universe, (as we know it) and the sooner the better., My motto is "the only good son/daughter of Abraham is one that is now in heaven and not on earth."

You spoke for me quite well, Dys.

We can hope they will grow up...but that does not seem to be the way things will go. All-out war on religion is the only solution that seems practical. And I hope we engage in it soon.

I cannot say that I am surprised. You defended your position with the same rationale that Hitler used in killing the Jews, i.e. it was for the good of the species.

Oh, why do people with nothing relevant to say on issues like this have to trot out ole Hitler. He's dead and burned.

All-out war on religion, Life....can be waged without resorting to the kind of thing any of the genocidal idiots of this world have managed.

In any case, taking off the gloves against you religious nuts is about the only way we humans are ever going to get out from under this superstitious nonsense you all peddle.

If you don't like that...shove it.

Religious folks have absolutely no big b**ch coming on an issue like this. The number of atrocities that have been perpetrated in the name of religion makes the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Hussein seem relatively innocent.

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All your talk about what a danger religious folks are -- and look who's ready to fire up the ovens.

No, Life...no ovens.

Just want to see you pitiful fools shakled.

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Your God-complex should not surprise anyone who has read your rants.

"God-complex?????"

From someone like you!!!!!

Egad. Do you write this stuff with the intention of being hilarious....or is it just that you are not especially competent?

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