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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 04:34 pm
AYM wrote: "...i was diagnosed as a bi-polar and i had ADD. through my pregnancy i made the choice to get off of my medication for the health of my baby. i got off the medicine that i "NEEDED" to function. i have been off all medication for about a year now and i have never felt better."

Congratulations on your successes, and I wish you continued success in the future.
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stlstrike3
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 11:10 pm
rockpie wrote:
i suppose its whether you look at it from a liberal point of view or a fundamentalist. liberals would say that all religions follow the same God and no matter what religion you follow you'll end up in heaven. fundamentalists, however, would argue that only Christianity is the true religion as the bible does say that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. i'm not choosing a side as i think they both make valid points and as a Christian i'm safe from assault by both. phew.

(all of the above taken in an overall Christian view)


You are not safe, however, by all those millions and millions of people in the Middle East who believe that YOU are going to hell. You have your holy book to say that that is not so. Sadly, they also have a holy book that says otherwise.

Most amusingly, neither one of you has the slightest shred of proof that the other is wrong.

If there is a god, and I am almost certain there is not.... I hope you have chosen the correct one. For if you arrive at the pearly gates and Zeus or Apollo is waiting for you, they might ask you why the hell you worshipped that dreadful Yahweh....
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 9 May, 2007 05:14 am
I think its time to stop all this hand wringing and attempts to reconcile fundamentally incompatible belief systems. Lets go back to the old methods of settling religious differences. When one religion predominates, and no one else contradicts it because they are all dead, then we will have found de facto the one true religion.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 09:12 am
what like manifest destiny? there's too much of that.

no, the questions phrased in integers when it should be in fractions. every religion represents 1/x(subset)n of the one true religion. if you add them all up, it's like mixing the cycles of different audio channels. some places will strengthen, some will weaken, but the resulting waveform is the truth. it includes atheism and agnosticism, by the way. i think there's truth in those that people don't ordinarily hear, but it's there all the same.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 09:46 am
tinygiraffe wrote:
every religion represents 1/x(subset)n of the one true religion. if you add them all up, it's like mixing the cycles of different audio channels. some places will strengthen, some will weaken, but the resulting waveform is the truth.


And you come to this dogmatic conclusion of your own how?

You obviously think that this 'truth' of yours is actually 'THE truth' that you have discovered concerning all other 'truths'.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 09:49 am
This might revive this topic and actually be fun. . ..
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 10:41 am
nice try, rl... but let's look at your charge that my contribution to this thread is dogmatic.

first of all, i say that manifiest destiny is terrible/excessive. this is an opinion, it's not dogma. it's based on the actions of those that act on a belief in manifest destiny throughout history, but it's an opinion nonetheless.

second, my solution to the problem is a dogma of sorts, i guess, but what makes something a dogma?

* concrete and not open to debate
* exclusive to those who believe
* based on some authority, often infallible, especially one that might not be based on empirical evidence

the irony of your protest is that your position is also dogmatic. i would think far more dogmatic than mine, let's go point for point:

* your position is the dogma of your personal interpretation of the bible, where mine would try to find balance between your position and others- do i have to explain how finding the balance between all other positions is by nature *not* concrete?

* yours flatout excludes everyone that doesn't believe yours, while mine at least tries to include everyone (i'm not saying a perfect job of it is possible, but the attempt is built into the premise)

* yours is based on a god that can't be wrong and can't be proven to exist. mine is based on me, a person, i can prove (to the satisfaction of most, or at least relatively speaking,) that i do exist, and i admit i can always be wrong.

you're complaining about "dogma," do you have any room to point fingers about it? is your position less dogmatic than mine, or more?

pfft Razz
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 11:15 am
neologist wrote:
This might revive this topic and actually be fun. . ..


nah

tiny spoiled the fun by honestly admitting that he's being dogmatic too. Laughing

way to go, tiny. :wink:
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 11:51 am
oh cmon, do we really have to be unfair to have fun?

here's why i think it's "unfair:" the question is "which is the one true religion." you might as well title it: "post your dogma here." if you want fun, try to come up with the most undogmatic response to the thread that you can Very Happy that should be a real challenge.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 12:03 pm
tinyg, You are correct: religion = dogma. Religion without dogma is an oxymoron. Everything quoted in the bible is "dogmatic." That's the way it is!
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 12:10 pm
tinygiraffe wrote:
oh cmon, do we really have to be unfair to have fun?

here's why i think it's "unfair:" the question is "which is the one true religion." you might as well title it: "post your dogma here." if you want fun, try to come up with the most undogmatic response to the thread that you can Very Happy that should be a real challenge.


No challenge at all.

Just answer 'I don't know. Maybe nothin's true.'

But if one answers 'Nothing is true' -- then there's a dogma that denies the validity of dogma. An instant contradiction.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 12:17 pm
even if they have a catch where you can reject it and there are no eternal consequences?

there's gotta be some religion out there that's sans dogma.
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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 03:03 pm
You rang?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 03:17 pm
Yes, I rang. How come you didn't answer? LOL
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JPB
 
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Reply Fri 21 Sep, 2007 03:39 pm
Hey! That's my line, ci! :wink:
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 06:52 am
tinygiraffe wrote:
even if they have a catch where you can reject it and there are no eternal consequences?

there's gotta be some religion out there that's sans dogma.


Are you looking for what's comfortable and easy --

-- or looking for what's true?
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EmilyGreen
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 07:11 am
"Which religion is the one true religion?"

It seems as though only dead people would know the answer to THAT question Very Happy
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 07:26 am
Quote:
Are you looking for what's comfortable and easy --

-- or looking for what's true?


this is a great example for that "loaded question" thread i'm participating in, thanks.

it might be an example of excluded middle also. and it's also an example of absolute b.s., but sadly there's no "absolute b.s. fallacy." i mean that would be redundant, but it would certainly apply here!
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 12:44 pm
tinygiraffe wrote:
Quote:
Are you looking for what's comfortable and easy --

-- or looking for what's true?


this is a great example for that "loaded question" thread i'm participating in, thanks.

it might be an example of excluded middle also. and it's also an example of absolute b.s., but sadly there's no "absolute b.s. fallacy." i mean that would be redundant, but it would certainly apply here!


Oh, sorry.

I thought the thread was about which religion was true.
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tinygiraffe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Sep, 2007 05:14 pm
yes it was...
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