33
   

Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 02:25 pm
What's the impediment, RR, and what differentiates said "artifical" impediment from an inferential natural impediment?

As usual, you've not said anything coherent.
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 02:43 pm
I was just wondering: At what stage of a person's conversion to christianity do they lose their ability to communicate coherently with common sense and logic?
0 Replies
 
wanderer1957
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:17 pm
Religion
I think it is a the height of arrogance to claim that "I know, I am saved".
"I can explain it all".
You don't know.
It is much humbler to admit that we don't know.
The "secret" of god and creation is beyond our knowledge.
Still I do envy the sense of peace and contentment that is shown by those who feel that they are saved.
But the way that this is achieved is through some kind of mental gymnastics in which you convince yourself that you know the "Truth".
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:22 pm
Re: Religion
wanderer1957 wrote:
I think it is a the height of arrogance to claim that "I know, I am saved".
"I can explain it all".
You don't know.
It is much humbler to admit that we don't know.
The "secret" of god and creation is beyond our knowledge.
Still I do envy the sense of peace and contentment that is shown by those who feel that they are saved.


Don't!

Fact is...most people asserting this sense of peace and contentment are being phony to the nth degree. They sound to me as though they are trying to convince themselves....and this god they claim to love.

Listen to 'em carefully...and you may hear the same thing I do.

Then the envy will go out the window.


Quote:
But the way that this is achieved is through some kind of mental gymnastics in which you convince yourself that you know the "Truth".


There is a differnce between "trying to convince yourself"...and actually "convincing yourself." Most of these people fall into the former...not the latter category.
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:26 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I was just wondering: At what stage of a person's conversion to christianity do they lose their ability to communicate coherently with common sense and logic?


You are not even talking about any point... pure insult.

Do you want me to start writing posts about how blind, selfish and insane atheists are?

Believe me I can... and I will direct most of them at you if you cannot act civil... I have a different opinion than you... big frickin' deal! You are so full of low blows and cuts. You are only showing people how heartless and rotten you are. That indicates more of a problem that I have ever displayed in this post...

Try to stick to a relative point and leave your insults out please. I know that is hard for an atheist to do...

I am not as passive as you think and I can roll with the punches like anybody else... I will bite my tongue till it bleeds but eventually I am going to start throwing the insults back and neither of us will be the better for it.
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:29 pm
Setanta wrote:
What's the impediment, RR, and what differentiates said "artifical" impediment from an inferential natural impediment?

As usual, you've not said anything coherent.


Agnosticism = artificial impediment...
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:32 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Setanta wrote:
I see none of the Christians here have yet been willing to tackle the very reasonable question which Big Bird posed, and which i have edited to remove any excuse to claim it entails a priori assumptions. I also see that RR is spouting his usually nonsensical stream of unconsciousness.


No that was an answer and you are in denial...


Rex...if you ever could appreciate the absurdity of you asseting someone else is in denial...

...you would have yourself a laugh that would last the rest of your life.

Goddam near spit up on myself when I read that.


What you don't deny God?

get real...
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 03:46 pm
My meaning in saying Set was in denial was because he did not post many of my words in his reply... Maybe because "most" of my words stand on their own...

I possibly could have found a better word to describe that than "denial"...
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:08 pm
Rex, They are "low blows" only because they are true. It's prolly the only thing you've acknowledged in this forum, but that's not even a start. Quit dancing around the questions asked of you, and we may have more respect for you. Until then, expect more of the same. You don't show any respect, you won't get any in return.
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:15 pm
RexRed wrote:
Setanta wrote:
What's the impediment, RR, and what differentiates said "artifical" impediment from an inferential natural impediment?

As usual, you've not said anything coherent.


Agnosticism = artificial impediment...


I'd love for you to 'splain that one!!!!
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:17 pm
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Setanta wrote:
I see none of the Christians here have yet been willing to tackle the very reasonable question which Big Bird posed, and which i have edited to remove any excuse to claim it entails a priori assumptions. I also see that RR is spouting his usually nonsensical stream of unconsciousness.


No that was an answer and you are in denial...


Rex...if you ever could appreciate the absurdity of you asseting someone else is in denial...

...you would have yourself a laugh that would last the rest of your life.

Goddam near spit up on myself when I read that.


What you don't deny God?

get real...


I'm not sure what "denying God" has to do with this...

...but in any case, I do not deny God.

Never have.

Never will.


I have no idea if there is a God.
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:17 pm
RexRed wrote:
My meaning in saying Set was in denial was because he did not post many of my words in his reply... Maybe because "most" of my words stand on their own...

I possibly could have found a better word to describe that than "denial"...


I'll go along with that!
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:27 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex, They are "low blows" only because they are true. It's prolly the only thing you've acknowledged in this forum, but that's not even a start. Quit dancing around the questions asked of you, and we may have more respect for you. Until then, expect more of the same. You don't show any respect, you won't get any in return.


What I will say back to you will be equally true I assure you if you do not stop hurling your insults......
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:29 pm
For altogether as Thou art, Thou only knowest, Who art unchangeably, and knowest unchangeably, and wiliest unchangeably. And Thy Essence Knoweth and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Knowledge Is, and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Will Is, and Knoweth unchangeably. Nor doth it appear just to Thee, that as the Unchangeable Light knoweth Itself, so should It be known by that which is enlightened and changeable." Therefore unto Thee is my soul as "land where no water is," because as it cannot of itself enlighten itself, so it cannot of itself satisfy itself. For so is the fountain of life with Thee, like as in Thy light we shall see light.

No this was not written by shiyacic aleksandar

This was written by St. Augustine
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:50 pm
"Agnosticism - A theory that does not deny God but denies the possibility of knowing Him."

Rex, You can't even get the definition of common words right. How do you ever expect to get the respect you seek?
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:51 pm
RexRed wrote:
For altogether as Thou art, Thou only knowest, Who art unchangeably, and knowest unchangeably, and wiliest unchangeably. And Thy Essence Knoweth and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Knowledge Is, and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Will Is, and Knoweth unchangeably. Nor doth it appear just to Thee, that as the Unchangeable Light knoweth Itself, so should It be known by that which is enlightened and changeable." Therefore unto Thee is my soul as "land where no water is," because as it cannot of itself enlighten itself, so it cannot of itself satisfy itself. For so is the fountain of life with Thee, like as in Thy light we shall see light.

No this was not written by shiyacic aleksandar

This was written by St. Augustine


Ass kissing is ass kissing...whether done by Shiyacic Aleksandar, RexRed, or St. Augustine.

And it is enough to make a grown man vomit.
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:55 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Setanta wrote:
I see none of the Christians here have yet been willing to tackle the very reasonable question which Big Bird posed, and which i have edited to remove any excuse to claim it entails a priori assumptions. I also see that RR is spouting his usually nonsensical stream of unconsciousness.


No that was an answer and you are in denial...


Rex...if you ever could appreciate the absurdity of you asseting someone else is in denial...

...you would have yourself a laugh that would last the rest of your life.

Goddam near spit up on myself when I read that.


What you don't deny God?

get real...


I'm not sure what "denying God" has to do with this...

...but in any case, I do not deny God.

Never have.

Never will.


I have no idea if there is a God.


You say or convince yourself you have no idea if there is a God,
Then you "actively" believe no one can have an idea.
You practice this belief until it becomes a rock solid "doctrine"...
So you have a "belief" system that is not based on personal practical application.
You refuse to entertain knowledge and demonstrate it's power due to this "belief".
For wisdom is "applied" knowledge...
Then your refusal/denial to recognize and entertain spiritual realities you obscure viable truths.
If you had at least tried to "apply" spiritual knowledge then you would have a "reason" for your inaction.
But since you are not even sure what the Bible is trying to say you could not have even given the "truth" a fair try.
Your Biblical knowledge is full of holes.
This is why I have tried to show some of the more unknown but foundational aspects of the word of God to you Frank...
This is why I cause fellow Christians heads to spin... because many of them are even unknown to them.
Thus you are impeded ALSO by your own limited dogma and unfortunate and seemingly closed mindedness..

Or, an "artificial impediment"...

It impedes because it is artificial...
0 Replies
 
RexRed
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 04:59 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
RexRed wrote:
For altogether as Thou art, Thou only knowest, Who art unchangeably, and knowest unchangeably, and wiliest unchangeably. And Thy Essence Knoweth and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Knowledge Is, and Willeth unchangeably; and Thy Will Is, and Knoweth unchangeably. Nor doth it appear just to Thee, that as the Unchangeable Light knoweth Itself, so should It be known by that which is enlightened and changeable." Therefore unto Thee is my soul as "land where no water is," because as it cannot of itself enlighten itself, so it cannot of itself satisfy itself. For so is the fountain of life with Thee, like as in Thy light we shall see light.

No this was not written by shiyacic aleksandar

This was written by St. Augustine


Ass kissing is ass kissing...whether done by Shiyacic Aleksandar, RexRed, or St. Augustine.

And it is enough to make a grown man vomit.


Most grown men believe this stuff remember Frank... you are part of the dysfunctional MINORITY... remember?
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 05:01 pm
RexRed wrote:

You say or convince yourself you have no idea if there is a God,
Then you "actively" believe no one can have an idea,


You are off your meds again.

I have never "actively" "believed" anything about whether or not you or anyone "can have an idea."

I've never really seen you have an idea...but...


Quote:
You practice this belief until it becomes a rock solid "doctrine"...


Nice try.

No Sale!


Quote:
SO you have a "belief" system that is not based on personal practical application.


No I don't.


Quote:
You refuse to entertain knowledge and demonstrate it's power due to this "belief".


You're blathering.


Quote:
For wisdom is "applied" knowledge...
Then your refusal/denial to recognize and entertain spiritual realities obscures viable truths.


Huh????

Name one.


Quote:

If you had at least tried to "apply" spiritual knowledge then you would have a "reason" for your inaction.
But since you are not even sure what the Bible is trying to say you could not have even given the "truth" a fair try.
Your Biblical knowledge is full of holes.


Sounds like you are trying to describe your head, Rex.


Quote:
This is why I have tried to show some of the more unknown but foundational aspects of the word of God to you Frank...


You are constantly ass kissing your god, Rex. You are terrified of the god. That is why you do the things you do.



Quote:
This is why I cause fellow Christians heads to spin... because many of them are even unknown to them.
Thus you are impeded ALSO by your own limited dogma and unfortunate and seemingly closed mindedness..

Or, an "artificial impediment"...


Take your meds. Calm down. The world is not coming to an end. This is just discussion.
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 05:03 pm
RexRed wrote:

Ass kissing is ass kissing...whether done by Shiyacic Aleksandar, RexRed, or St. Augustine.

And it is enough to make a grown man vomit.


Most grown men believe this stuff remember Frank... you are part of the dysfunctional MINORITY... remember?[/quote]

Ahhhh...and you think that makes it something other than ass kissing???

I don't think so.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

700 Inconsistencies in the Bible - Discussion by onevoice
Why do we deliberately fool ourselves? - Discussion by coincidence
Spirituality - Question by Miller
Oneness vs. Trinity - Discussion by Arella Mae
give you chills - Discussion by Bartikus
Evidence for Evolution! - Discussion by Bartikus
Evidence of God! - Discussion by Bartikus
One World Order?! - Discussion by Bartikus
God loves us all....!? - Discussion by Bartikus
The Preambles to Our States - Discussion by Charli
 
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.06 seconds on 04/20/2025 at 01:42:50