Which Religion is the One True Religion?

Frank, you don't seem to perceive that standing in total opposition to "God" is the biggest straw man of all...

Is it the shock value you are after?

You reason in your head that because there are so many denominations there must be no God. That is like saying because there is so much light the true light cannot be known.

Yet the wisdom of God eludes you... there are different spectrums of light.

There are two Gods in power and power is needed to recognize the truth.
You reject God so you ultimately reject or ignore the power that is required to discern the true God.

Frank, you don't seem to perceive that standing in total opposition to "God" is the biggest straw man of all...

Is it the shock value you are after?

You reason in your head that because there are so many denominations there must be no God. That is like saying because there is so much light the true light cannot be known.

Yet the wisdom of God eludes you... there are different spectrums of light.

There are two Gods in power and power is needed to recognize the truth.
You reject God so you ultimately reject or ignore the power that is required to discern the true God.

Some people own a car and only go in to honk the horn, some learn to operate the car proficiently. The same is with the holy spirit. Some have been born of spirit yet they do not operate it.

1 Corinthians 12
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he [the man/woman] will.

Comment:
The true God "never" possesses a soul.

Listed above are the nine manifestations (erroneously called "gifts") of the spirit.

One must receive the "holy" spirit before they can "manifest" it...

To manifest is to (by the believers own will) bring into external concretion the result of the internal presence and reality of the holy spirit within.

One must receive holy spirit in order to manifest it...

See Frank, if you were more interested in seeing the actual logic of the Bible you would know why there are so many versions of Christian/Muslim/Jewish etc religions...

Christianity is the most divided religion because it has the most truth and it has a REAL adversary/devil/satan that has REAL spiritual power to deceive and mislead (you and others)... the presence of so many religions is proof of power...

Just because there are so many religions doesn't mean that God doesn't have a true way...

I might mention that the word "to" in the verse above is supplied wrong...
It is supposed to be the word "for"...

...and the word "another" does not refer back to a person... but it relates back to the word "profit" in the verse before...

So the verse should be understand wherever the word "to" is it should be inserted "for another profit" Profit not prophet...

That Christians find spiritual profit in the spirit is the purpose. This is how to prove God...

No, the truth of this verse was uncovered by people who walk by the spirit and they treat the word with care and trust. How can the word speak truth if one approaches it with their mind made up before reading it. They premise the reading with the thought that it is just a book written by men. If you are looking for human logic you will find it... To prove the book it needs to be studied and researched to see if there is an architecture and power that it truly does inherently and inerantly supply.


John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost [spirit], whom the Father will send in my name, he [it] shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Comment:
The holy ghost is not a ghost floating around but it is "the gift of holy spirit" that God creates in every born again believer... The spirit is not a "he", but an "it"...

The holy spirit is not a "person" but it is power to operate the nine manifestations of the spirit listed above.

When one operates any one of the manifestations it is proof of the internal reality and presence of the holy spirit..

One CANNOT manifest the spirit without the spirit. God has "spiritual" laws...

Once the holy spirit is created within a believer it can never be corrupted/slain/removed/made to sin etc....

It can be operated within the guidelines of the verse listing them above and other verses in the Holy Bible which clarify the use and operation of the holy spirit.

God is the Giver, Holy Spirit and God gives... holy spirit.

When one reads through the original sins and the laws and the sacrifices they come to Christ and the power of the holy spirit and a choice whether to love God or the devil.

1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Now when has making sense ever been one of Rex's priorities . . . really, Big Bird, lighten up . . .

I was driving home early sunday morning through Bakersfield
Listening to gospel music on the colored radio station
And the preacher said, you know you always have the
Lord by your side ....

Set here fer a while and I'll pop ya a brewski, neo.

The nation of Fossilonia was said to have occupied an area of Asia Minor between a rock and a hard place. Concrete evidence is lacking, however.

I once knew a fossil named Morris
Who'd been eaten by tyrannosaurus
And while he was restin
Within the intestine
He thought of this poem just to bore us.

The fossilized remains of petrified geezers have been found in excavations from the Alzheimoic era, which corresponds with the first known appearance of the shrinkosaur. . .

You're just stonewalling us, neo.
Joe (Gravel in my gut) Nay Shonuf

God's will is mysterious and set in stone.

What should we have expected from such an inflexible God? I hate this.

Fossils are peaceful rocks. Fossils don't attack each other. Fossils don't develop weapons of mass destruction.

This is a perfect example of argumentum ad fossilarium.

Just because you believe you are a fossil does not mean that fossils exist.

There could be worse things. You could be a green fossil.

Fossilization is necessary in the progression of the soul to the light. Next will be a cocoon like state after which you will emerge as a, er, well, we really don't know.

So what?

You idiot! Now your body has taken after your petrified brain. What did you expect, you $%$ $#@* %^shole?

I do not know if your affliction is truly an affliction. I will hit you with this stick. If it breaks, you are a fossil. Hey! Come back here!

When the species of a being is not clear to you, look at his friends.

There are many strata of fossils; Therefore, you exist.

I'm sorry if I somehow caused you to fossilize. I can't imagine how, but if there's anything I can do . .

Fossilization is simply another manifestation of the threefold nature of dweeb.

Obviously, Rex - you can't see how silly your argument is - "In order to have faith, you have to have faith" - that's what you're saying, and its the ultimate in circular reasoning. It simply makes no sense whatsoever.

Comment: Frank still insists Christians are under the law...

Before you pass judgment on a book (or system of belief), do you not think it wise to know what that book says and means first?

To throw out Paul or Moses or any of the other books is to throw out a part of God's holy book...

RexRed wrote:

Comment: Frank still insists Christians are under the law...

"Frank" doesn't insist that....JESUS CHRIST insists that.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you: UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, NOT THE SMALLEST LETTER OF THE LAW, NOT THE SMALLEST PART OF A LETTER, SHALL BE DONE AWAY WITH UNTIL IT ALL COME TRUE." Matthew 5: 17ff

The ridiculous notion that Jesus Christ came along...and suddenly, all the horseshyt spewed by the god of the Bible no longer applies....is probably the most bizarre and hypocritical in a long line of very bizarre, hypocritical notions of Christianity.

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Before you pass judgment on a book (or system of belief), do you not think it wise to know what that book says and means first?

I certainly do...but it is even more important not to be a goddam liar, hypocrite, and revisionist...in order to make a book like the Bible say what it does not say.

You, Rex, want to pretend that the Bible does not say what it says.

That is absurd.

Stop passing judgement on how others deal with the Bible. You've got more than enough problems dealing with the way you deal with it.

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To throw out Paul or Moses or any of the other books is to throw out a part of God's holy book...

Well...it is open to debate as to whether or not the Bible is "God's holy book"...or a book of mostly fiction written by ancient Hebrews....

...but since you seem convinced that it is "God's holy book"....why don't you stop "throwing out" the parts you don't like.

RexRed wrote:

Frank, you don't seem to perceive that standing in total opposition to "God" is the biggest straw man of all...

Is it the shock value you are after?

You reason in your head that because there are so many denominations there must be no God. That is like saying because there is so much light the true light cannot be known.

Yet the wisdom of God eludes you... there are different spectrums of light.

There are two Gods in power and power is needed to recognize the truth.
You reject God so you ultimately reject or ignore the power that is required to discern the true God.

Because a mass of people believe in A god (not THE god), does not give credence to your particular religion.

You claim to know that your god is the one TRUE god, which logically means the other gods are FALSE gods. You claim that your reading of the scripture is the only TRUE way it can be read, which logically means other readings are FALSE.

I agree that there can be "different spectrums of light". But spectrums of light don't claim to be the ONLY CORRECT or RIGHT spectrum of light. Religions DO make this claim. THAT is why your RELIGION is FALSE and CORRUPT.

God, if there is such a being, has NOTHING to do with ANY religion. I believe YOU do not KNOW god if you are following christianity.

How can god (and I am not talking about your god) create a world so full of logic and structure and then ask everyone to throw it out the window.

timberlandko wrote:
"Obviously, Rex - you can't see how silly your argument is - "In order to have faith, you have to have faith" - that's what you're saying, and its the ultimate in circular reasoning. It simply makes no sense whatsoever."

Rex wrote:
"Good Question timber"

Obviously, Rex doesn't understand the difference between a statement and a question. It's no wonder he never makes any sense by his posts.

Frank I have not thrown out parts...

I have seen those unclear passages in light of the "many" clear passages...

You seem oblivious to "the great mystery" of the Epistle logic...

Now Frank,

Here is some logic?

If we are called Christians...

and If we have "christ in us" (as the verse above says)

And if Jesus Christ is at the right hand of God seated in the heavens...

Then the church is in heaven NOW with Christ...

so, the heavens and earth have passed away...

Galatians 2
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Comment:
Also, if Christ was judged before he went to heaven and if we the church are in his body? Then we were already "judged" with Christ two thousand years ago...

Now if you want to ignore the Epistles for a Gospel logic that was not even addressed "to" Christians but specifically "to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" then that is your choice.

Jesus did not send the disciples to "the world" until the day of his ascension.

It is you Frank who is not taking into consideration whole resolution of the Bible...

You have not taken into consideration the "scope" of the Bible and you are "stuck" mostly in the old testament and the gospels...

I do not reject the old testament I see it in light of humans trying to exist in spite of a spiritual deficiency...