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Which Religion is the One True Religion?

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 4 Aug, 2005 08:12 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Rex...

...the Christian mythology is laughable.

The Christian god is even more laughable.

If it makes you feel better to indulge yourself in this mythology...do it. Some people do that same thing with Santa Claus. They are called children; you folks are called sheep.

Except that I consider the latter to be a minor insult to sheep...I guess that pretty much sums it up.


Frank, you seem to be one of the very few people I know that finds the God of the Bible laughable. You are certainly not even nearly part of the majority. In fact most people find the Bible to be quite serious...

You are only laughing because you are afraid to believe... It is a protective mechanism like hiding your head in the sand...

If you hide your head in the sand maybe no one will see you... Smile
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 4 Aug, 2005 11:19 pm
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Rex...

...the Christian mythology is laughable.

The Christian god is even more laughable.

If it makes you feel better to indulge yourself in this mythology...do it. Some people do that same thing with Santa Claus. They are called children; you folks are called sheep.

Except that I consider the latter to be a minor insult to sheep...I guess that pretty much sums it up.


Frank, you seem to be one of the very few people I know that finds the God of the Bible laughable. You are certainly not even nearly part of the majority. In fact most people find the Bible to be quite serious...

You are only laughing because you are afraid to believe... It is a protective mechanism like hiding your head in the sand...

If you hide your head in the sand maybe no one will see you... Smile


At least you had a point with this post....keep up the good work.

Oh, and count me as one who finds the god of the bible laughable. He's down right hilarious. The greatest comic of all time, even better than Seinfeld.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 03:14 am
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:

Why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?



The ultrasound stuff is emotional stuff...and it does make the decision harder. It never stops the decision from being made. Either the woman has an abortion or does not. And that, after all, is what the decision is.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?




Did you have any "emotional stuff" like Xrays etc done before your cancer surgery, Frank? Isn't that just sound medicine? If the Xrays had revealed that operating on the cancer, if successful or not, would leave you blind and deaf, isn't that something you should know?

If a sonogram shows a mother what her unborn really is like, isn't it sound medicine to give her that information before she irreversibly ends the unborn's very existence?

Why are you so afraid she will find out what's really going on? Why should she not be informed as to the unborn's heartbeat, brain function, movements, etc ? What are you afraid of?


Me afraid???

I am not the one pretending to love a barbaric god because of fear.

If a woman wants to have an abortion...I think she should be allowed to have one. If she wants to have a sonogram first...she should have one.

I don't think it should be a requirement...and I don't think she should be subject to the ravings of a bunch of religious nuts.
That's all I'm saying.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 03:20 am
RexRed wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Rex...

...the Christian mythology is laughable.

The Christian god is even more laughable.

If it makes you feel better to indulge yourself in this mythology...do it. Some people do that same thing with Santa Claus. They are called children; you folks are called sheep.

Except that I consider the latter to be a minor insult to sheep...I guess that pretty much sums it up.


Frank, you seem to be one of the very few people I know that finds the God of the Bible laughable.


Not actually.

I know many, many people who find the god very laughable.

I see Maporche has indicated such feelings.

ANYONE ELSE THING THE god OF THE BIBLE IS LAUGHABLE? Anyone else think the mythology is laughable?


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You are certainly not even nearly part of the majority. In fact most people find the Bible to be quite serious... [/uqote]

At one time "the majority" thought there were gods on Mt. Olympus. Were the folks who where "not in the majority"...and who averred that there were no gods there...wrong because of that?

C'mon, Rex. You can do better than that.


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You are only laughing because you are afraid to believe... It is a protective mechanism like hiding your head in the sand...


This makes no sense, Rex. What would I be afraid of?

You poor boobs are afraid of your silly god.


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If you hide your head in the sand maybe no one will see you... Smile


And you think buying into this absurd fairytale...and pretending that this murderous, barbaric god is actually kind and loving is NOT HIDING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND?

Wake up!
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 03:52 am
From the standpoint of wisdom, maya (the illusion of the world) is unreal; in the vision of the enlightened saint, maya is absent. This is indeed an intriguing phenomenon. To the Wise (realized soul), who has crossed the shores of ephemeral existence, it is non-existent; to those relying on reason, it is inexplicable; to the ordinary man, it is a fact. The shadow you cast is reduced bit by bit with every step that you take towards the sun, until the sun shines right on the top of you and the shadow crawls under your feet and disappears. Similarly, maya becomes less and less effective as you march towards Divine wisdom (realization). When you are firmly established in wisdom, maya falls at your feet and becomes powerless to deceive you further and disappears ... Razz
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 04:07 am
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
From the standpoint of wisdom, maya (the illusion of the world) is unreal; in the vision of the enlightened saint, maya is absent. This is indeed an intriguing phenomenon. To the Wise (realized soul), who has crossed the shores of ephemeral existence, it is non-existent; to those relying on reason, it is inexplicable; to the ordinary man, it is a fact. The shadow you cast is reduced bit by bit with every step that you take towards the sun, until the sun shines right on the top of you and the shadow crawls under your feet and disappears. Similarly, maya becomes less and less effective as you march towards Divine wisdom (realization). When you are firmly established in wisdom, maya falls at your feet and becomes powerless to deceive you further and disappears ... Razz


Booga, booga, booga.
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shiyacic aleksandar
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 04:26 am
Bhoga in sanskrit means the "enjoyer of life" which is the opposite of a god seeker,aspirant!
relevant? isnt it....

Rolling Eyes
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 06:30 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
From the standpoint of wisdom, maya (the illusion of the world) is unreal; in the vision of the enlightened saint, maya is absent. This is indeed an intriguing phenomenon. To the Wise (realized soul), who has crossed the shores of ephemeral existence, it is non-existent; to those relying on reason, it is inexplicable; to the ordinary man, it is a fact. The shadow you cast is reduced bit by bit with every step that you take towards the sun, until the sun shines right on the top of you and the shadow crawls under your feet and disappears. Similarly, maya becomes less and less effective as you march towards Divine wisdom (realization). When you are firmly established in wisdom, maya falls at your feet and becomes powerless to deceive you further and disappears ... Razz


Booga, booga, booga.


Frank... Frank... you should have ignored SA's pseudo-psycho babble like I learnt to do a long time ago.

Now look what you've done...

shiyacic aleksandar wrote:
Bhoga in sanskrit means the "enjoyer of life" which is the opposite of a god seeker,aspirant!
relevant? isnt it....


You've gone and confused Monsieur Aleksandar.

The Christian God is not laughable. Unbelievable, perhaps, but not laughable. There is nothing funny about a God that in the Old Testament, wipes out two cities, calls for his people to wipe out entire races, commits mass genocide himself and plans to wipe out all life in the end through the most horrific of acts.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 09:05 am
Wolf_ODonnell wrote:
The Christian God is not laughable. Unbelievable, perhaps, but not laughable. There is nothing funny about a God that . . . plans to wipe out all life in the end through the most horrific of acts.
Where does the bible say that?
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 09:27 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:

Why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?



The ultrasound stuff is emotional stuff...and it does make the decision harder. It never stops the decision from being made. Either the woman has an abortion or does not. And that, after all, is what the decision is.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?




Did you have any "emotional stuff" like Xrays etc done before your cancer surgery, Frank? Isn't that just sound medicine? If the Xrays had revealed that operating on the cancer, if successful or not, would leave you blind and deaf, isn't that something you should know?

If a sonogram shows a mother what her unborn really is like, isn't it sound medicine to give her that information before she irreversibly ends the unborn's very existence?

Why are you so afraid she will find out what's really going on? Why should she not be informed as to the unborn's heartbeat, brain function, movements, etc ? What are you afraid of?


Me afraid???

I am not the one pretending to love a barbaric god because of fear.

If a woman wants to have an abortion...I think she should be allowed to have one. If she wants to have a sonogram first...she should have one.

I don't think it should be a requirement...and I don't think she should be subject to the ravings of a bunch of religious nuts.
That's all I'm saying.


In the interest of informed consent and truth in advertising, I'm really surprised that you side with the corporations on this Frank. Selling this service to women under false pretenses and hiding the true result of their services to make a buck is a very bad thing.

But I guess that you've got your own vested emotional interest that has got you defending this. So you should know about emotional stuff. I just don't think medical information qualifies as emotional. But you don't seem to be able to give a reason for saying so, other than continually asserting that it is.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 09:38 am
Wolf_ODonnell wrote:
Frank... Frank... you should have ignored SA's pseudo-psycho babble like I learnt to do a long time ago.

Now look what you've done...You've gone and confused Monsieur Aleksandar.

Well, you're right on that. How can you correct someone who hasn't made a point?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 09:41 am
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
real life wrote:

Why is giving a mother access to medical information , such as an ultrasound, "emotional stuff" ?



The ultrasound stuff is emotional stuff...and it does make the decision harder. It never stops the decision from being made. Either the woman has an abortion or does not. And that, after all, is what the decision is.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?




Did you have any "emotional stuff" like Xrays etc done before your cancer surgery, Frank? Isn't that just sound medicine? If the Xrays had revealed that operating on the cancer, if successful or not, would leave you blind and deaf, isn't that something you should know?

If a sonogram shows a mother what her unborn really is like, isn't it sound medicine to give her that information before she irreversibly ends the unborn's very existence?

Why are you so afraid she will find out what's really going on? Why should she not be informed as to the unborn's heartbeat, brain function, movements, etc ? What are you afraid of?


Me afraid???

I am not the one pretending to love a barbaric god because of fear.

If a woman wants to have an abortion...I think she should be allowed to have one. If she wants to have a sonogram first...she should have one.

I don't think it should be a requirement...and I don't think she should be subject to the ravings of a bunch of religious nuts.
That's all I'm saying.


In the interest of informed consent and truth in advertising, I'm really surprised that you side with the corporations on this Frank. Selling this service to women under false pretenses and hiding the true result of their services to make a buck is a very bad thing.


Pitiful bullshyt, Life.

No one is selling anything under false pretenses.

You seem to think that a woman cannot come to a reasonable decision about whether or not to abort a pregnancy on her own.

Why do you have such a low opinion of the intellect of women?

Are you a man or a woman?

What makes you so goddam sure that women contemplating an abortion have not considered all that stuff....and can make their decision without input from you or any other religious fanatic?


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But I guess that you've got your own vested emotional interest that has got you defending this.


You goddam right I have. I fiercely defend a woman's right to have dominion over her own body...without a bunch of religious fanatics trying to get government to tell her what she can or cannot do with regard to a pregnancy she might have.


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So you should know about emotional stuff. I just don't think medical information qualifies as emotional.



Well...when it is emotional bullshyt masquarading as medical information...is does quality as emotional.

The medical term for a fetus...is "fetus."

The medical term for a zygote...is "zygote."

The medical term for an embryo...is "embryo."


The emotional, religious fanatic's terms for all those things is "living human being."

That is bullshyt...and it is emotional.


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But you don't seem to be able to give a reason for saying so, other than continually asserting that it is.


Jesus H. Cheerist, Life...where in the hell have you been.

I am more than able to give reasons....I HAVE GIVEN THEM...OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Why in the hell are you possibly accusing me of not doing so?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 10:00 am
real life will argue his position until hell freezes over. They assume they know better than the woman (who they have never met or cared about) who makes the decision to abort their embryo. That's the logic of fundamentalist christians; they lose all sense of perspective and common sense.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 10:10 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
real life will argue his position until hell freezes over. They assume they know better than the woman (who they have never met or cared about) who makes the decision to abort their embryo. That's the logic of fundamentalist christians; they lose all sense of perspective and common sense.
Not all of us bible thumpers insist there be a legal restriction on abortion. I sure wouldn't want to be in the position of a woman having to make such a decision.

But, if I were, I would want to have a clear understanding of what I was doing. Having someone tell me that what I am considering is OK by definition just doesn't seem quite enough.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 11:56 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
real life will argue his position until hell freezes over. They assume they know better than the woman (who they have never met or cared about) who makes the decision to abort their embryo. That's the logic of fundamentalist christians; they lose all sense of perspective and common sense.


Well...after reading Neo's remarks...even the ones pretending to be open minded don't seem able to trust a woman to have enough facts to make an informed decision on something like that without have the religious nuts helping her.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 12:08 pm
I dont know which religion is the one true religion

Perhaps we should start by eliminating all the religions which are clearly not the one true religion, and reduce the list to a final winner.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 12:11 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
I dont know which religion is the one true religion

Perhaps we should start by eliminating all the religions which are clearly not the one true religion, and reduce the list to a final winner.
That could happen if this is something more than a flash in the pan: http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50801
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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 01:24 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
ANYONE ELSE THING THE god OF THE BIBLE IS LAUGHABLE? Anyone else think the mythology is laughable?

If anyone needs some help developing a deep down belly roar, they might look here.

Laughable absurdities[/u]
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 01:52 pm
mesquite, That's only 957 laughables in the bible. How many are How many are sad/depressing? LOL
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 5 Aug, 2005 01:59 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
mesquite, That's only 957 laughables in the bible. How many are How many are sad/depressing? LOL
Amazing! Timber's picture only had room for three straw men.
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