@farmerman,
Quote:You ignore good evidence nd data and mostly talk over your "debate opponents", and youve been no different.
"Building from nothing" is a really a naive conclusion on your half. Weve just spent pages going over about prebiotic compounds and amino acid returns in planetary and stellar spectra. Hardly "from nothing"> perhaps the inevitability of compounds "Assembling" You just ignore those facts
I have ignored nothing you have said. I've fully acknowledged the plausibility and existence of prebiotic compounds and amino acids and fully recognize that they may link up from natural causes, albeit in random order. You are conflating my criticism of the absurdity of Hawking et al's 'universe from nothing' with my arguments on abiogenesis, a very dishonest debating technique.
You on the other hand, have offered nothing other than random chance to explain the order (information) contained in DNA (or any precursor to it) that had to have preceded evolution.
I have offered the rationale and mathematical basis for why random chance is not a plausible scenario. I haven't heard a rebuttal from you on that or several other related things except calling my arguments 'crap'. Not convincing farmer.