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@hawkeye10,

Best I can tell, the ones I have in mind are far-left wing extremists. The "skinheads" of the left, you might say. Right wing neo-nazis would probably be banned immediately, but the same tactics seemed to be condoned if coming from the other side.

You're right that in one sense it's a serious matter. The rhetoric of all extremists, of any type, seems to share such characteristics as: (1) fanatical certitude (2) hostile intolerance (3) unsubstantiated demonization, and (4) amateurish simplification.

It's basically hate-mongering. But at the same time it's comical, to me, at least.

Same with the conspiracy theory wack-jobs. They're basically harmless and I would never try to argue with them or display my "superior wisdom" by repeatedly mocking them. I just chuckle.

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@Leadfoot,

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Choice is anarchy too ya know...

Having a choice is anarchy, making the choice is syndicalism.

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@bobsal u1553115,

He says in spite of all of the abusive mob actions we have had around here. Drunk

No, what is needed is that three life wise A2K Elite keep an eye on things, and when one of them thinks that it is time for someone to go to call a vote of the three. They make arguments, they look at this persons troubling content, then they have a binding vote. Majority decides.

This ain't rocket science.

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@hawkeye10,

Just so long as you're on that list.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

Forums need constant new blood to live, and people dont go to hang out in hostile environments if they have a choice.

Oh...so you think people who want to hang out in Internet forums and talk about politics, philosophy, and religion...are put off by a hostile environment???

C'mon!

Anyway...if you are correct, Hawk...

...I wish them good luck with that.

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@Olivier5,

Like I said. You and I disagree majorly on only two things, but on this one issue you said everything I think needs to be considered whichever way Robert pilots the boat.

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@hawkeye10,

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This ain't rocket science.

Which is why my simple suggestions will work here like they do on DU. It keeps things civil AND protects even the outliers like you and gunga as long as the conversation remains civil. There would be some simple rules: no name calling of members, no mysogyny, no racist remarks, no threats of violence, no fighting words (trolling).

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@hawkeye10,

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You are not taking it seriously enough.

You're right. It seems to me that far too many people, on this forum and elsewhere, take themselves and their "convictions" far too seriously. As a result, they also start taking what others say far too seriously. One thing I've also noticed is that there is a very underdeveloped sense of humor in many here.

That's one thing that puts me on some people's **** list, too, I suppose.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Oh...so you think people who want to hang out in Internet forums and talk about politics, philosophy, and religion...are put off by a hostile environment???

I think all good people are at least uncomfortable with the personal cruelty that has long run rampant on this site, if not disgusted by it, which is why many if not most of them are now gone, and it is why new people rarely come.

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@bobsal u1553115,

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@Leadfoot,
I did say "progress from ... to", not "degrade from .... to ...."

I have no problem with anarchy if the beer is cold and the reefer sweet.

OK, just make'n sure what you meant.

Pass that blunt, please...

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@Olivier5,

I don't know if it's dying. Looking at the thread 'viewed' counts, there are a hell of a lot more lurkers than there are of us willing to shoot our mouths off. The question is, how to get the lurkers to be bold enough jump in and participate.

Maybe all we need is an "Intro to A2K" section or an automated Email to new registrations to acclimate people to the free for all environment here so they don't take offense and back away when the first asshole flames them.

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@Leadfoot,

Why do lurkers read the posts but not enter the discussions?
They've read the posts.

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@bobsal u1553115,

This is simple?

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@George,

George wrote:

Why do lurkers read the posts but not enter the discussions?
They've read the posts.

I know these folks are called 'lurkers' but possibly they are just curious and not interested enough to join in. I don't join in on every thread, but that just means the topic doesn't appeal to me.

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This place gets plenty of new blood on a regular basis. Those of us who have been here for a decade or more can see that. One can reasonably refer to Leadfoot as "new blood." In addition, all manner of people who had dropped out have popped up again, and if there is genuine change, they may become regulars again.

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@Setanta,

I'm creeping up on 11,000 posts, and I still consider myself to be a newbie here.

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@Leadfoot,

Leadfoot wrote:

Looking at the thread 'viewed' counts, there are a hell of a lot more lurkers than there are of us willing to shoot our mouths off.

I could be wrong, but I believe the "viewed" count ticks up every time each of us returns to a thread to read new replies.

If I'm right, that means with multiple people coming to read every single time there is a new post, longer threads can accumulate quite a large viewed count.

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@oralloy,

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I could be wrong, but I believe the "viewed" count ticks up every time each of us returns to a thread to read new replies.

Correct. Is this place was designed right admins can see the number of different people have looked at the thread at one time or another, but we dont know. And it seems to be that the bots are still counting, at least some of them. if so the views are sometimes not even people.

I sometimes wonder if people go back to a thread tens of times over a few minutes to make a thread seem more popular than it is. Even so, I do pay attention to view counts, they are of some use in figuring out which threads have a lot of lurkers, though we can not know the number that are watching.

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