Why all religion is pointless

You know shaving does NOT make it look bigger.....right?

semantics do matter.

a hypothesis is a tentative explanation, or an assumption from untested observation. once those assumptions are tested, and the bogus/false assumptions are weeded out you get closer to the territory of theory.

an idea, though it is the seed of what could eventually become a theory, is not a theory. a theory is arrived at through much research and development of a methodology, a systematic analysis of facts.

personally can not understand why anyone still believes in god, for me he is about as real as Santa Claus is today.

Gala, in your opinion, how exactly does this relate to the argument in which kicky and I were engaged?

kicky, that is really the pot calling the kettle black!

Contrary to your rather insulting post, I am fully aware of the meaning of the word "theory". A theory is an idea. Scientists use these ideas to explain the world around them, then attempt to prove them. Religious philosophers too have ideas about the world, many of whom attempt to prove them. The difference is that often a scientific claim can be proved, religious ones cannot, otherwise they would be accepted by science.

So you see, it is science which claims to know. Religion must always remain in the realm of speculation.

LeKatt,

" ... evolution is the easiest to disprove."

Oh come on now. If you think that evolution is so ease to disprove, then do it.

Somehow I doubt that you, or anyone else, is likely to overturn evolution. The facts supporting the evolution of species is huge, and from many sources. I doubt that there are 2% of all the biologists and other scientists who deal with the subject, who hold that evolution should not be regarded as fact. The nay-sayers tend to be fanatical followers of some of the more radical Abrahamic sects. The Creationists have been trying to disprove evolution, or conversely to prove creationism, for a long time now with zero, that is ZERO success.

In fact, there is little evidence of "orderliness" in the universe. It is a place of chaotic encounter . . . although, of course, those who are predisposed to believe in a divinely imposed order are going to "see" that order, without regard to whether or not it actually exists . . .

Lekatt, it can be said that there is order in the systems of our world. The very word 'organism' implies something with a level of organisation. However, it is entirely plausable that that organisation resulted from randomness. Evolutionary theory states (though I am not an expert and thus cannot use the exact wording) that the initial change is a random one, like a baby is born slightly different than it's fellows. This happens all the time. However, if that difference allows that baby a better chance of surviving, and eventually reproducing, that change will then spread through the population.

So yes, random things can happen, if they happen to possess qualities which allow them to persist, such as the gravitation pull upon the planets and their subsequent orbits, then they will stay around to be seen by all. If they don't, they quickly cease to exist.

scientists quantify-- to say an idea is a theory is simply too general.

religion, however, falls more in the realm of human emotion, it's qualitative, and those personal beliefs are the individuals blueprint for the quality of ones life.

the quality of my life is not determined by the big-bang theory. however, i am greatly enriched by the freedom i have to cobble together my own faith and beliefs about where i come from, who i came from, if there is a god, etc.-- those are my ideas, they are not some theory based on scientific fact that i wish to be challenged, disproved or debated.