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Why all religion is pointless

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:33 am
Ah the comic relief . . . we have an entire thread by a "disprover" of evolutionary theory. By the by, that should read, "Plausible to whom."--that's the objective pronoun you want. It is certainly at least as probable as an old white-bearded Hebrew type waving a hand and bringing into instantaneous existence all that we now know as the material world.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:35 am
Setanta wrote:
Ah the comic relief . . . we have an entire thread by a "disprover" of evolutionary theory. By the by, that should read, "Plausible to whom."--that's the objective pronoun you want. It is certainly at least as probable as an old white-bearded Hebrew type waving a hand and bringing into instantaneous existence all that we now know as the material world.


What you sayin' bout my shaving habits?
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fortune
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:36 am
I would like to know exactly how one would go about disproving the theory of evolution!
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:37 am
Communism isnt a religion. I am just talking about religions.

Lek... how is evolution easy to disprove? Lay the skeletons of animals and humans that have been discovered over time side by side in order of thier age... and watch the evolution in thier body structure. Evolution is survival. People in africa have become very dark skinned so they can survive exposure to the amount of sun in that area. That is evolution. Tribes of people who survive in extremely cold surroundings are short and stout to maintain body temperature so they dont freeze. That is evolution.....
How can that be disproved?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:40 am
Okay, back in university, my roommate was a guy called Occam, though not Bill, strangely enough. He hated it when I used his razor.
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Jer
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:41 am
Lekatt,

Who benefits from the theory of evolution being considered the most plausible theory?

Who benefits from the Christian story being considered the truth?

When you come down, I'd love to hear how you easily disprove evolution, or better yet, link to a credible source that cites your argument for you.

Cheers.

Lekatt wrote:
Jer wrote:
Evolution is taught because it is the most plausible theory. Ie. The theory with the most FACT to back it up. The beauty about science is that if another theory becomes more plausible it will become the theory that is taught.

With religion, the original story is THE story. Religions don't, generally speaking, want to discover new stories, because it makes their story invalid.


Plausible to who? Have all theories been investigated, I think not.

Not going to do it here, but evolution is the easiest to disprove.

Love
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:42 am
Re: God is Real
fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Science doesn't claim to know what caused the first appearance of matter, energy, or life, or the cause of it. Religion does.


Oh yeah? What about the big bang theory? What about thermodynamics? What about Darwinian evolution?


I think you need to get a dictionary, and look up the definition of "theory".
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Asherman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:42 am
LeKatt,

" ... evolution is the easiest to disprove."

Oh come on now. If you think that evolution is so ease to disprove, then do it.

Somehow I doubt that you, or anyone else, is likely to overturn evolution. The facts supporting the evolution of species is huge, and from many sources. I doubt that there are 2% of all the biologists and other scientists who deal with the subject, who hold that evolution should not be regarded as fact. The nay-sayers tend to be fanatical followers of some of the more radical Abrahamic sects. The Creationists have been trying to disprove evolution, or conversely to prove creationism, for a long time now with zero, that is ZERO success.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:43 am
Cav... you shave? Since when?
hahahha
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:45 am
shewolfnm wrote:
Cav... you shave? Since when?
hahahha


Just the chaff, never the wheat. Laughing
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:46 am
Well.. in my basic kindergarden brain... I dont buy the creation idea at all simply because the bible states that man was created in gods image. And through out the history of christianity 90% of the images of god are white tall and male. The bible says he was a black man. hmm...
funny, if i were created in his image why am I a Cherokee WOMAN?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:48 am
ooohhh....cav
TMI!!! ROFL
( too much information )
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fortune
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:52 am
Re: God is Real
kickycan wrote:
fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Science doesn't claim to know what caused the first appearance of matter, energy, or life, or the cause of it. Religion does.


Oh yeah? What about the big bang theory? What about thermodynamics? What about Darwinian evolution?


I think you need to get a dictionary, and look up the definition of "theory".


I think you need to formulate an argument instead of quibbling over semantics.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:55 am
good point
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 10:57 am
One thing about religion is complete FACT


ready for this ? :-)

You can always get a thread going, conversation or arguement started if the subject is religion!
Prove that wrong! HAHAHAHAH!!!

I for one am enjoying this thread and am not intending to be rude with any of my comments so I hope noone has taken any offence.
Though I do still wonder why evolution is not real? Where is the proof of that? I would love to see that
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 11:00 am
Re: God is Real
fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Science doesn't claim to know what caused the first appearance of matter, energy, or life, or the cause of it. Religion does.


Oh yeah? What about the big bang theory? What about thermodynamics? What about Darwinian evolution?


I think you need to get a dictionary, and look up the definition of "theory".


I think you need to formulate an argument instead of quibbling over semantics.


See my first quote above for the argument.

See your last quote for an example of someone who has no case, and is trying to divert the discussion to hide that fact.
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Jer
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 11:02 am
Re: God is Real
Nah...Kicky's right...

Theory means 'think' not 'know'.

"To the best of our knowledge, this is how it happened..."

as opposed to:

"This is how it happened..."

definition



fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
fortune wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Science doesn't claim to know what caused the first appearance of matter, energy, or life, or the cause of it. Religion does.


Oh yeah? What about the big bang theory? What about thermodynamics? What about Darwinian evolution?


I think you need to get a dictionary, and look up the definition of "theory".


I think you need to formulate an argument instead of quibbling over semantics.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 11:02 am
shewolfnm wrote:
Well.. in my basic kindergarden brain... I dont buy the creation idea at all simply because the bible states that man was created in gods image. And through out the history of christianity 90% of the images of god are white tall and male. The bible says he was a black man. hmm...
funny, if i were created in his image why am I a Cherokee WOMAN?


Gosh shewolf, such an easy thing to explain. People depict God using images that they themselves create. God is a spirit, thus nobody can draw a picture of Him. Pictures of Christ, who Christians believe to be God Incarnate, do mostly picture Him as a white man. Wrongly so since he was Jewish by birth and lived in the middle east. But that is the nature of any artistic rendering of things that we have no true images of. Artists tend to create images based on what their intended audience will like.

Your other thought about being created in God's image I can only answer in this way. Since God is neither male or female, but rather spirit, the image talked about in the Bible cannot be a physical image. We were created in the spiritual image of God, thus that would include both male and female. At least this is where my studies have taken me.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 11:05 am
I agree with you. God is supposed to be omnipitent < spell check ?> so there for he is neither he nor she human nor spirit. Too bad THAT isnt the popular physical concept of god.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 11:07 am
that is why I call my thinking 'kindergarden'. hehehe. its easier that way
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