Reply Tue 20 Oct, 2015 10:25 pm
most of the students are the only child of their families.

here, shall we use child or children? why?
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:48 am
@remington318,
I would use "children." In the Wikipedia entry on "only child", "only children" is used more than once. It is difficult to get a comment on the plural, as it is hard to search for the definitions of two word locutions online.
jespah
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:37 am
It's a weird, awkward construction. Instead of
Quote:
most of the students are the only child of their families.


how about
Quote:
Most students' families have only one child.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:48 am
Most of the students are the only child in their families.

You are talking about a position in the family - the first and only child.


remington318
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 09:43 am
@PUNKEY,
So you mean my original sentence was correct? Because it refers a position, the first and the only one, child is correct while children is incorrect?
Why nobody talked about coherence?
By the way, does it sound weird "only children"? can "only" followed by a plural noun?
Thanks for reply.
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layman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 11:38 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
I would use "children."


I wouldn't.
remington318
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 02:05 pm
@jespah,
No, the original sentence is not weird, just different emphasis. My words focus on the students, your words focus on the families.
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remington318
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 02:06 pm
@layman,
Can you give me a little bit reason behind your "wouldn't"?
Thank you!
layman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 02:23 pm
@remington318,
Quote:
most of the students are the only child of their families.



Quote:
Can you give me a little bit reason behind your "wouldn't"?
Thank you!


I just wouldn't. The very concept of being an "only child" precludes the plural.

I'm no grammarian, or nuthin, but if you wanted a "technical" answer, I would probably say that the subject of the sentence ("most") is singular in form and concept (if not raw quantity), so child matches.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 03:12 pm
". . . most of the students are . . . "--plural.
layman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 03:17 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
". . . most of the students are . . . "--plural.


OK, fair enough, but are what?

The only "children" or the only "child?"

I alone can't be the "only children" in my family--it's self-contradictory.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 03:22 pm
@layman,
Find someone else to pick a fight with. You might also have some regard for people who are intent on learning English, and not trash their threads.
layman
 
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Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2015 03:29 pm
@Setanta,
Heh, no matter what is said, you always seem to:

1. Accuse someone of trying to pick a fight with you, all while...
2. Telling them what to do and characterizing whatever they say as "trash."

Typical, sho nuff.
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Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2015 08:43 pm
Most children have no siblings.
layman
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2015 09:45 pm
@Miss L Toad,
Quote:
Most children have no siblings.


So they the onliest child then, eh, Missy?
Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 02:50 am
@layman,
They be only the lonely , always in dreams, here.



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selectmytutor
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 07:05 am
@remington318,
You should use "only child" for this sentence.
remington318
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2015 11:36 am
@selectmytutor,
Thank you. I asked somebody in my office and he said child was right.
The reason is, only can only be followed by singular concept, not singular noun, but concept.
For example;
There are only one pen left on the table.
there are only two pens left on the table.
here, "two pens" is a unit concept, a singular concept, pens follow two, not "only". "two pens" follow "only".
It would be wrong if you say "there are only pens left on the table."
Certainly, if you want to emphasize there are only pens, no pencils or rulers whatsoever left on the table, the sentence is correct again. "pens" is a unit, singular concept, not a plural concept.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thank you very much for your comments!

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