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Should "for" be removed from here?

 
 
Reply Fri 16 Oct, 2015 11:27 pm
Or "select for" shares the same meaning with "select" in this case?

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We must continually remind ourselves that there is a difference between what is
natural and what is actually good for us. Cancer is perfectly natural, and yet its eradication is a primary goal of modern medicine. Evolution may have selected for territorial violence, rape, and other patently unethical behaviors as strategies to propagate one's genes-but our collecte well-being clearly depends on our opposing such natural tendencies.

-Sam Harris
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Reply Sun 18 Oct, 2015 03:30 am
No, "select for" refers to the process of natural selection in which individuals with useful traits are more likely to successfully reproduce, and therefore pass on those traits. In such a case, evolution is said to have "selected for" that trait.
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Reply Sun 18 Oct, 2015 07:00 am
@oristarA,
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Should "for" be removed from here?


Whenever you have a choice between multiple alternatives and make a "selection" then you can be said to have selected "for" one thing and "against" the other(s).

If I am offered a choice between chocolate and vanilla ice cream, and choose chocolate, then I have "selected for" chocolate (and "against" vanilla).

This is not particularly applicable to claims, in evolutionary theory, that certain traits are "selected for." I am just illustrating the general linguistic use of the phrase "selected for."

That said, your question is a good one. What need is there to add the word "for?" Why not just say one thing was selected?
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Reply Sun 18 Oct, 2015 09:17 am
@oristarA,
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Evolution may have selected for territorial violence, rape, and other patently unethical behaviors


My own damn self, I would have another question about this passage. How does "evolution" act as an agent in exercising "selection?" I haven't seen any guy called "evolution" sittin around on a barstool anywhere, know what I'm sayin?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 18 Oct, 2015 08:40 pm
Both answers are equally clear.
Toss a coin for the ribbon:

The obverse for Setanta, the reverse for Layman.

(Putting the coin into my hands and shake it until I don't know whether it is obverse or reverse, then toss it up to the ceiling).

It is reverse.

Thank you both.
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