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Ladies and Girlie men

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2004 07:35 pm
shepaints wrote:
"Why no sexist, opportunist jokes? Funny is funny and clever is clever when nobody gets hurt."

Times and sensitivities change, what was funny
fifty years ago is not necessarily funny today.


Yep - and a lot of the funniness was always based on noxious stereotyping - like Stepan Fetchit (spelling?) - the dumb immigrant, the stereotypical Japanese person - like Mickey Rooney in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" and so on - (in Oz, at one time, the literature is full of really nasty humour against the dumb English person just arrived "new chums" - based, no doubt, on Oz's 'orrid cultural cringe).

It is amazing how horrid a lot of stereotype humour looks today.

Hey - if it is tit for tat - which a lot of the male/female stuff is - and conscious - go for it - same with cultural stuff - cultural difference humour can be hilarious - but where negative assumptions about a group are so built into the culture that people just accept them as reality - like the portrayal of black people in American cinema until relatively recently - or the whole range of words referring to the feminine which are automatically assumed to be negative - I think these things form and reflect our consciousness - and are important to be challenged.

And here I bow out - this thread seems to be going nowhere and causing bad feelings, as it sails round and round, with people I like.

But I ain't gonna pretend I don't think something is serious when I do.

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good night.

Don't forget to put the dog out.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2004 10:55 pm
Too cool D. I reread it and laughed like hell. I guess I did let this thread get to me. I'm done worrying about who wants to be too serious. I don't. Oh, and I luvya too! :wink:
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 24 Jul, 2004 11:15 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Too cool D. I reread it and laughed like hell. I guess I did let this thread get to me. I'm done worrying about who wants to be too serious. I don't. Oh, and I luvya too! :wink:


Lol! Good - I can be a little abstruse sometimes....glad you get the jokes now.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 01:16 am
Can I get some help from one of you sensitive types?

What do you call a man who can't throw a baseball all the way to the catcher?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/baseball/mlb/07/25/bc.bba.redsox.kerry.ap/p1_kerry2_all.jpg
(I'm pretty sure I know what Arnold would call him Laughing )
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:03 am
A man who likes to keep hold of his balls. Or - simply - a man.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:04 am
Next...
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 03:41 am
So a blonde, a midget and a crippled dude walk into a bar...
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 04:00 am
So an inept politician, a girlie-boy, and a buoyancy-impaired dude walk into a bar . . . .
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 05:53 am
.... and the politician slaps his money on the bar,pulls a frog out of his pocket, and calls out in a loud voice,

"stingers for my friends.... and a plate of flies for my toad."
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:14 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
What do you call a man who can't throw a baseball all the way to the catcher?

A Cubs relief pitcher?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:22 am
ROFL Joe. That's so mean! Take heart. This may be the year for the Cubs. The season isn't over yet.
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SueZCue
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:24 am
well if it is worthy of complaint, so is that nasty beast Whoopie Goldberg making comments about the President's name sounding like a part of female anatomy. What's good for the goose.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 09:35 am
SueZ's point is well taken, except for the small caveat that Miss Goldberg is not, for aught i know at present, the Governor of the state in which 10% of the population of our nation live, and the economy of which dwarfs the gross domestic products of all but a handful of other nations in the world . . . but let's not sweat the small sh!t, 'k? . . .
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:25 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Setanta, you are still brilliant at delivering your message and your message is still wrong.


You have nothing but your bald assertion--you made a claim, you did not support your claim, you barely even tried. My criticism that you have erected strawmen of the left and the right stands. Given your seeming inability to support your case, i'm not surprised that you now wish to drop the subject.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 10:48 am
I say to wait to see how effective Kerry's pitch (sic) is at the convention. I doubt that Mr. Failed Planet Hollywood could throw the ball any further. He would actually just fondle it. BTW, we were warned today the California electrical grid could produce area blackouts.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:13 am
Debra_Law wrote:
So an inept politician, a girlie-boy, and a buoyancy-impaired dude walk into a bar . . . .
Which one am I? Laughing

joefromchicago wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
What do you call a man who can't throw a baseball all the way to the catcher?

A Cubs relief pitcher?
Laughing It must be like looking down the business end of a Lupo to have to cheer for the Cubs AND the Bears. Laughing

Lightwizard wrote:
I say to wait to see how effective Kerry's pitch (sic) is at the convention. I doubt that Mr. Failed Planet Hollywood could throw the ball any further. He would actually just fondle it. BTW, we were warned today the California electrical grid could produce area blackouts.
So who we blaming for the warm temperatures? Arnold or George? (those devious bastards). Laughing

And finally,
Setanta wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Setanta, you are still brilliant at delivering your message and your message is still wrong.


You have nothing but your bald assertion--you made a claim, you did not support your claim, you barely even tried. My criticism that you have erected strawmen of the left and the right stands. Given your seeming inability to support your case, i'm not surprised that you now wish to drop the subject.
Shocked

Can't leave well enough alone, eh? Laughing You ignored two consecutive references to Orrin Hatch (one with a link, btw) who did bring up the idea seriously (contrary to your claims)... apparently preferring to concentrate on ramroding your continuous Ad Hominem attack at me. I've read most of your posts on this forum, Setanta, and your behavior here is like reading someone else. Why don't you just admit you went overboard, instead of degrading yourself further? Idea

I'm willing to let it drop or I'll spar with you on the merits if you wishÂ… or trade Ad Hominems with you if you prefer (I'm sure Kicky's fingers are crossed for this one :wink: ). But only if you promise not to cry about friendship anymore. It isn't that serious, and you degrade us both with that childish strategy.

Now choose... Choose wisely. Razz
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:25 am
http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040722/arial.gif
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:28 am
Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:59 am
There is no ad hominem in that post . . . although i doesn't surprise me that you would rather have the conversation at that level.

One swallow does not a summer make--and Orrin Hatch does not speak for all "staunch conservatives." You erected straw men about "liberal democrats" and "staunch conservatives." I have no reason to assume that members of either vague groupings have universal ideas regarding the extension of rights to immigrants, and i in fact contend that there are no such identifiable universal opinions held. You have not provided the definition of these groups, let alone supported, even anecdotally, the contention that each group has a monolithic attitude toward immigrants.

So far, the most you have offered is to continue to assert that i know you're right (far from it, i think you have deluded yourself--first briefly, and then resolutely to support your "argument"), and to suggest inferentially thereby, that i'm being willfully dishonest because i'm "hyper-partisan." I resent that, and i resent your contention that this is about me "ramroding [sic] . . . Ad Hominem attack" against you; i greatly resent that i was foolish enought to think that you'd be cordial in disagreement, but apparently, your devotion to your partisan point of view is too strong. This about me calling your hand when you've got a pair, and acting as though you had a royal flush.

To repeat, you have no case.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 12:21 pm
Oh, man, Bill, are you gonna take that?

(pours gasoline on fire)

P.S. You'll notice that my tattoo has been removed. Thank god, I was starting to really hate that damn thing.
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