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It's now official: W can't win.

 
 
Foxfyre
 
Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:26 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:30 pm
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=799770#799770
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 06:17 pm
"His critics are so blinded by animus that the internal consistency of their attacks on him no longer matters."
His critics aren't the ones who are blind.

And if he loses, it won't be due to democratic hatred but by enough people coming to the realization that he's done very little good for the country.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 06:27 pm
And if he wins Suzy, what will that be?
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angie
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:35 pm
....not enough people coming to that realization.
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:39 pm
Exactly! Thanks Angie.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 09:35 pm
As any internet forum will reveal, there are a lot of stupid and misinformed people out there.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 09:41 pm
If we didn't find weapons of mass destruction, we shouldn't have invaded. If we had, it means we planted them to discover when the time was right.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 09:47 pm
roger wrote:
If we didn't find weapons of mass destruction, we shouldn't have invaded. If we had, it means we planted them to discover when the time was right.


I didn't realize you felt that way rog.....that's pretty strong....
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 09:49 pm
It's not leftys whose suspicion has brought us to this point, it's the actions and non-actions of many members of the admin who taught us to be suspicious in the first place. Bush's unpopularity is his own fault, not the leftys. He has earned every suspicion and every doubt cast upon himself.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 09:56 pm
It's now official: W can't win.

Send his ass to Crawford then.

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Karzak
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 11:43 pm
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:


And if he loses, it won't be due to democratic hatred but by enough people coming to the realization that he's done very little good for the country.


ROTFLMAO, he has done far more for the country than clinton ever did.

Unfortunately the left puts style over substance.
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princesspupule
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 01:20 am
Karzak wrote:
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:


And if he loses, it won't be due to democratic hatred but by enough people coming to the realization that he's done very little good for the country.


ROTFLMAO, he has done far more for the country than clinton ever did.

Unfortunately the left puts style over substance.


How about this for substance? (And mind you, this is only the tip of the iceberg...) Domestic issues:

Last March GWB announced adding 21,000 jobs for the whole country in February. Compare this to President Clinton's averag of 239,000 jobs per month for all 96 months of his Presidency.

During Clinton's two terms, the median income for American families increased by a solid 15% after inflation, according to Census Bureau figures. But it rose even faster for African Americans (33%) and Hispanics (24%) than it did for whites (14%). Families in the bottom fifth of the income distribution saw their incomes increase faster than those in the top 5%. In 2002(halfway thrugh Dubya's term) median income had declined 0.8%

The poverty rate under Clinton fell 25%, the biggest eight-year decline since the 1960s. It fell even faster for particularly vulnerable groups like blacks, Hispanics and children. That hasn't happened under Dubya.

Clinton made work more rewarding with increases in the minimum wage and the earned-income tax credit, the creation of the Children's Health Insurance Program (to cover the children of working-poor families), and expanded funding for day care.

Bill Clinton lowered the national debt by $2.4 Trillion. He managed to pay off $216,000,000,000, which was the largest debt paydown in American history. National debt is OVER $7 TRILLION and rising $700,000,000 per year. Bush isn't paying it down; in fact, he is increasing it.

Bill Clinton had plenty of substance and did a lot to benefit people in the USA. Bush's substance equals blowing bubbles.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 01:41 am
roger wrote:
If we didn't find weapons of mass destruction, we shouldn't have invaded. If we had, it means we planted them to discover when the time was right.


Very Happy
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the reincarnation of suzy
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 07:29 am
Karzak wrote:
the reincarnation of suzy wrote:


And if he loses, it won't be due to democratic hatred but by enough people coming to the realization that he's done very little good for the country.


ROTFLMAO, he has done far more for the country than clinton ever did.

Unfortunately the left puts style over substance.


Do we now? I guess if you consider a better standard of living as style, I guess you'd be right. Wink

Please name some of the wonderful things Bush has done for us.
If you can. ROTFLMAO in anticipation.
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Sagamore
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 07:51 am
Bush will lose because he sent us into an optional war and thousands died.

Bush will lose because he turned a large surplus into an even larger deficit largely through reckless tax cuts for the wealthy and the above-mentioned war that we didn't need to fight.

Bush will lose because he has effectively given up on fighting terrorists in favor of the afore mentioned war in Iraq.

Bush will lose because he is the king of flip floppery.

Bush will lose because he has an environmental record so bad that even Nixon's environmental chief is complaining.

Bush will lose because he and vice-president have told too many lies, distorted too many truths and the public now understands it.

Bush will lose because he squandered the enormous worldwide good will heeped upon him on 911. Now, we, and especially he, are hated all over the globe. We can no longer depend on our allies to support us, especially since the boondoggle of Iraq.

Bush will lose because the WMD, which we claimed to know the location of, are not there and the American public no longer believes his lies about how capturing Saddam is worth 900 American lies.

Bush will lose because he cannot campaign freely anywhere in the US except on military bases and at GOP fund raisers. Like a coward, he runs from any confrontation with angry voters.

Bush will lose because he and his administration have done a poor job. We are still at a net loss of over a million jobs since he took office, the worst record in 70 years. The jobs that have been created are not the equal of the jobs that have been lost. Internationally, Bushes policies have been disastrous. In the final analysis, Bush is inept; he is incompetent. He has not unified us as a nation. If anything, he is the most polarizing figure in American politics in many years. He has not restored dignity and honor to the oval office. He has failed utterly and must be retired in Nov.
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Moishe3rd
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 08:09 am
Sagamore wrote:
Bush will lose because he sent us into an optional war and thousands died.

I suspect Bush will win because most people view Saddam Hussein as the absolute sterotype of the kind of Islamic/Arab Fascists that enjoy sawing people's heads off.

.....(More of the same)

Bush will lose because he and vice-president have told too many lies, distorted too many truths and the public now understands it.

I suspect that Bush will win because the public is beginning to understand that both the media and the Democrats use lies in place of truth, and fully expect the "gullible" public to believe....

Bush will lose because he squandered the enormous worldwide good will heeped upon him on 911. Now, we, and especially he, are hated all over the globe. We can no longer depend on our allies to support us, especially since the boondoggle of Iraq.


I suspect that Bush will win because Americans are beginning to realize what a moral cesspool is most of the world and that it is good to value those that have moral values....


Bush will lose because the WMD, which we claimed to know the location of, are not there and the American public no longer believes his lies about how capturing Saddam is worth 900 American lies.

Bush will lose because he cannot campaign freely anywhere in the US except on military bases and at GOP fund raisers. Like a coward, he runs from any confrontation with angry voters.

Proving my point that lies and immorality are what counts amongst those who despise Bush....

Bush will lose because he and his administration have done a poor job. We are still at a net loss of over a million jobs since he took office, the worst record in 70 years. The jobs that have been created are not the equal of the jobs that have been lost. Internationally, Bushes policies have been disastrous. In the final analysis, Bush is inept; he is incompetent. He has not unified us as a nation. If anything, he is the most polarizing figure in American politics in many years. He has not restored dignity and honor to the oval office. He has failed utterly and must be retired in Nov.


I suspect Bush will win because of your hatred. Because of your lies. Because of your belief in appeasement over action.
I suspect that Clinton won a second term for precisely these reasons.....
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 08:11 am
How would Bill Clinton have done if 9/11 had happened eight months into his presidency? One can only wonder.

The national debt was not reduced in any year under Clinton (or anybody else's presidency). The deficit was essentially wiped out for a couple of years--we did have a GOP congress forcing that--but the debt clock kept right on running.

The economy was pretty good under Clinton and it was on his watch; therefore, he deserves credit for signing off on the policies that produced that. The economy was beginning to slide into a mild, cyclical depression in 2000 - this was pushed deep and severe on 9/11/2001. That the economy is booming now is on Bush's watch and the jobs are coming back.
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Sagamore
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 01:30 pm
Bush will lose despite Moishe's ramblings-the public isn't buying into the bushian schtick like they used to. His incompetence on most levels is astounding and people are beginning to recognize that they have been hoodwinked.

Bush will lose because the polls are all going in Kerry's favor. Everyone agrees that the election rises and falls on the 17 states that have been labelled battleground states. At the moment Kerry leads in 17 of them and Bush leads in three. Kerry's 14 states would give him 164 electoral votes while Bush's are worth 21.

Kerry's current lead in electoral voters is well over 100. Bush has a very high mountain to climb. On the path to the peak, he must debate Kerry 3 times. Bush does very poorly in any situation that does not allow him the use of a script. Kerry was the president of the Yale debating society. Bush has a veep with an approval rating of 21%. Kerry's running mate is the overwhelming choice of americans who were asked, who would be a better president> Cheney or Edwards.

Bush will lose because he has never been equal to the task; because his record is abysmal and because he is a fraud.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 01:35 pm
Quote:
Bush will lose because he has never been equal to the task; because his record is abysmal and because he is a fraud.


God, I hope your right. I am afraid to hope.
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