Do You Approve of Entertainers Becoming Politicized?

Well, the title to the thread sort of suggests that...

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dlowan-

This was my title:

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Do You Approve of Entertainers Becoming Politicized?

What I wanted to know is if a person goes to somewhere for pure entertainment, do they want an entertainer to espouse their political views? That was explained in the body of my thread.

Fuggedaboudit. This damn election has become so divisive, that a person can't even ask a question without it being picked apart. As for me, I want entertainers to be entertainers, and politicians to be politicians. (except in the case of career change! :wink: )

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Lol! We ar we not having an election here - yet.

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Lol! We ar we not having an election here - yet.

You're lucky. This one over here is becoming a stiff pain in the butt. The level of rancor on both sides is unbelievable.

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

dlowan-

This was my title:

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Do You Approve of Entertainers Becoming Politicized?

What I wanted to know is if a person goes to somewhere for pure entertainment, do they want an entertainer to espouse their political views? That was explained in the body of my thread.

Fuggedaboudit. This damn election has become so divisive, that a person can't even ask a question without it being picked apart. As for me, I want entertainers to be entertainers, and politicians to be politicians. (except in the case of career change! :wink: )

Phoenix, I knew what you were asking. I don't get why it was so confusing either. Seemed like a damn simple question to me.

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Kickycan- You know what I said about the rancor? What has happened on this thread is a great example. I asked what I thought was an extremely simple question, which for some, has become convoluted way out of proportion!

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kickycan, It's only a rhetorical question - not meant as a fact on this thread.

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I don't see the rancor.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

kickycan, It's only a rhetorical question - not meant as a fact on this thread.

Huh?

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I dont see any "rancour" either ... just people expressing their views. In as non-confrontative, even joking, a manner as you'll find on the Politics forum these days. Course, most of 'em didnt agree with you, Phoenix - but that doesnt make 'em "rancorous". <shrugs>

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Oh, as for the question - I dont give a flying toss. Musicians have spoken up about politics forever, in both articulate and ****-stupid ways. Sometimes you expect it, sometimes you dont. So what - its rarely likely to be more than the odd sentence or exclamation or two anyway, barring the really political performers. And like someone said, most of the time you pretty much already know (or suspect) what views the band you just paid a shitload to see hold anyway.

And if you're really pissed off about it, hell, boo 'em. Then they play the next song and you're dancing again. Sweat off whose back? They're artists - they're supposed to be a little unruly.

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I guess Phoenix wouldn't approve of entertainers like Irving Berlin either. link

I'm having a real problem with the

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Becoming Politicized

part of the thread title. Entertainers sharing their political views is nothing new. Read a theatre program, liner notes ... it's out there, and has been for a very long time.

My political opinions are not going to be changed by learning about an entertainer's. I may <frown> or <nod> on learning about some of them, but <shrug>, it won't change anything.

<edit to add the missing link :wink: >

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Yeah the politicized part was what bothered me too. I read it as the individual entertainers become politicized... not sure how it was meant. In that reading, I think it's more a matter of comfort level, lack of fear of repercussions/ loss of audience. I.e. it's not that they suddenly discover some conviction (except perhaps in the case of maturing child actors), but that they feel comfortable expressing an already-held conviction. And I think that comfort level is good.

Meanwhile, since I said something on another thread about rancor, I think there's plenty of political rancor to go around but not particularly here. There definitely seems to be an opinion/ message being put forth in this topic; even if that opinion/ message was not intended, it isn't surprising that the apparent opinion/ message was responded to.

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Of course, Phoenix asked ". . .do you appreciate. . . ?", not, do they have the right. By the way, I've heard Ted Nugent in interview. Too much for me, and I agree with the sentiments. If I heard it in concert, I would probably walk.

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I think I noted that I appreciate - Ofcourse it depends on which particular entertainer is in question. A conservative will love to hear Schwartzenager, or maybe Merle Haggard, while a liberal will love to hear perhaps Bob Dylan or Buffy Sainte-Marie..

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edgarblythe wrote:

I think I noted that I appreciate - Ofcourse it depends on which particular entertainer is in question. A conservative will love to hear Schwartzenager, or maybe Merle Haggard, while a liberal will love to hear perhaps Bob Dylan or Buffy Sainte-Marie..

This conservative is not that conservative, if conservative they are.

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

Fuggedaboudit. This damn election has become so divisive, that a person can't even ask a question without it being picked apart. As for me, I want entertainers to be entertainers, and politicians to be politicians. (except in the case of career change! :wink: )

Nothing to do with any election, from my perspective. I expect people, including entertainers, to have opinions. If they want to express them, they should have the right to, just as you have the right not to support them if they do. But I think your choice of listening/reading enjoyment is going to be limited if you want politics kept out of it. Mozart was noted for putting political commentary into his works. Many of the great baroque composers reflected politics in their work. Much of Shakespeare's work can be read as political. Ayn Rand - political. Dickens - political ... Your entertainment options definitely shrink if you don't want politics in there.

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ehBeth, Gotta agree with you 100 percent. Entertainment and politics is entertwined too often not to accept it as a matter of fact. Some of the best books I've read has some politics in them. Wink

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Sound of Music was based on politics. Wink

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Sound of Music was based on politics.

And ever read the history behind(about) a couple of operas? Laughing

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