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What is "exploitative attack"?

 
 
Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 10:28 pm
An attack that seizes a chance to attack "the wrongdoer" for your personal gains?

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The Leviathan – the rise of the modern nation-state and judiciary "with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force," which "can defuse the [individual] temptation of exploitative attack, inhibit the impulse for revenge, and circumvent ... self-serving biases."
Commerce – the rise of "technological progress [allowing] the exchange of goods and services over longer distances and larger groups of trading partners," so that "other people become more valuable alive than dead" and "are less likely to become targets of demonization and dehumanization."

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature#Thesis
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2015 11:52 pm
@oristarA,
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 01:35 am
@oristarA,

Pinker is difficult even for me to read!

An exploitative attack would be an attack made to exploit a perceived weakness, I suppose.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 03:21 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Pinker is difficult even for me to read!

An exploitative attack would be an attack made to exploit a perceived weakness, I suppose.


But the wiki introduction is generally easy to read.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 05:20 am
@oristarA,

Ah yes, the Wiki entry was most probably not written by Steven Pinker, but I dare say there was a good deal of COPY and PASTE involved in its composition.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 05:54 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Ah yes, the Wiki entry was most probably not written by Steven Pinker, but I dare say there was a good deal of COPY and PASTE involved in its composition.


Have you bought his book? Or read it in a bookstore?
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 08:57 am
@oristarA,

I have got one book by him, but not this one.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 10:38 am
@McTag,
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I have got one book by him, but not this one.

Despite Pinker's difficult to read, his ideas in The Better Angels of Our Nature are brilliant to me. What do you think of them.

How inspiring they sound -

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Pinker identifies five "historical forces" that have favored "our peaceable motives" and "have driven the multiple declines in violence."[2] They are:

The Leviathan – the rise of the modern nation-state and judiciary "with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force," which "can defuse the [individual] temptation of exploitative attack, inhibit the impulse for revenge, and circumvent ... self-serving biases."
Commerce – the rise of "technological progress [allowing] the exchange of goods and services over longer distances and larger groups of trading partners," so that "other people become more valuable alive than dead" and "are less likely to become targets of demonization and dehumanization."
Feminization – increasing respect for "the interests and values of women."
Cosmopolitanism – the rise of forces such as literacy, mobility, and mass media, which "can prompt people to take the perspectives of people unlike themselves and to expand their circle of sympathy to embrace them."
The Escalator of Reason – an "intensifying application of knowledge and rationality to human affairs," which "can force people to recognize the futility of cycles of violence, to ramp down the privileging of their own interests over others', and to reframe violence as a problem to be solved rather than a contest to be won."[2]:xxvi


Of course, I never forget to read the criticisms.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 04:19 pm
@oristarA,
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Cosmopolitanism – the rise of forces such as literacy, mobility, and mass media, which "can prompt people to take the perspectives of people unlike themselves and to expand their circle of sympathy to embrace them."
The Escalator of Reason – an "intensifying application of knowledge and rationality to human affairs," which "can force people to recognize the futility of cycles of violence, to ramp down the privileging of their own interests over others', and to reframe violence as a problem to be solved rather than a contest to be won."


They are all very good, especially these two.
It's a great pity though, that all parts of the world do not progress at the same time nor at the same pace.
So anomalies like Khmer Rouge, North Korea, and ISIL crop up, which are not part of the programme.
But Mr Pinker's analysis seems masterly.
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 02:31 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


They are all very good, especially these two.
It's a great pity though, that all parts of the world do not progress at the same time nor at the same pace.
So anomalies like Khmer Rouge, North Korea, and ISIL crop up, which are not part of the programme.
But Mr Pinker's analysis seems masterly.


Is it true that pol pot is said to be mao's student, who brought mao's teachings into practice and resulted in the holocaust in Cambodia?
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 02:29 pm
@oristarA,

A reply to that would be better to come from someone other than me.
But the killer gene seems to crop up regularly, anywhere. Rwanda, Bosnis, Syria, Sudan....
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