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Sat 1 Aug, 2015 01:08 pm
We have been labeled as trolls and freaks and geeks because we have expressed opinions that some people don't approve of. I have decided to own the term. And why not? This is an open forum which works best when ideas and opinions can be expressed freely.
The trolls here are the people who are willing to ask questions and the engage in interesting discussions. It is not the trolls who are making personal attacks or trying to shut down discussion.
So let's unite, not as people in lock step agreement, but as people who want A2K to be a place where difference of opinion is respected and debates can be based on ideas rather than personal attacks.
If you want the proud label of A2K Troll, I would ask three simple things.
1) You express your ideas and opinions freely without fear, and you respond when people question or challenge them.
2) You don't attack people personally. You can attack opinions, or question ideas without name calling or making personal attacks. If you choose to not engage, then you don't engage.
3) You support your fellow trolls right to express their own opinions even if you don't agree with them.
So let's stand up to the bullying. Let's stop the attempts to shut down discussion and demonize members, The cool kids won't like it much, but if we stand up for each other there isn't much they can do about it.
I am a proud A2K Troll. You can join me if you want, we trolls are an inclusive bunch. You can like guns and be a troll, you can hate guns and be a troll. You can be a Creationist or an Evolutionist or an Atheist or a Muslim. We will take you all, as long as you don't make personal attacks.
@maxdancona,
I'll join.
But, I think I have already been assigned membership.
@maxdancona,
You are both more than welcome. Sit down, have a leg of mutton.
@maxdancona,
I've been accused (incorrectly) of being a sock puppet. If that moniker sticks, can I have dual citizenship as Troll and Sock Puppet? Will anyone question where my true loyalty lies - Troll or Sock Puppet?
Possibly we need to educate those that make accusations against posters, that they are supposed Trolls, the emotional toll of being an anti-Trollite!
If we can find a chapter and verse that could be interpreted to mean that Trolls will be Raptured Up, we possibly can get the Evangelicals behind us? The conservative Republicans? A Troll for President?
Today A2K, tomorrow ze vorldt.
@maxdancona,
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2) You don't attack people personally. You can attack opinions, or question ideas without name calling or making personal attacks. If you choose to not engage, then you don't engage.
The trolls cant follow that one at all, so theres a good test.
@farmerman,
max wrote: 2) You don't attack people personally. You can attack opinions, or question ideas without name calling or making personal attacks. If you choose to not engage, then you don't engage.
farmerman wrote: The trolls cant follow that one at all, so theres a good test.
That would be a good test.
We should quote your observation freely, if you don't mind.
@neologist,
my standard fee for attribution is a fresh ginseng root perfectly shaped like Abe Lincoln
@farmerman,
Most of the personal attacks aren't coming from the trolls.
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:I've been accused (incorrectly) of being a sock puppet. If that moniker sticks, can I have dual citizenship as Troll and Sock Puppet? Will anyone question where my true loyalty lies - Troll or Sock Puppet?
I play Forsaken (mostly) in World of Warcraft. The nice thing about playing an undead horror is you get to eat other players after you kill them. Anyway, as Forsaken, I am allied to Trolls (we're both members of the Horde).
As far as true loyalty goes though, I'm loyal only to Sylvanas. Sorry Trolls, but one day you'll be on the menu too.
Until that day though, I'll do a convincing enough job of feigning loyalty to my living allies. So I'm allied to Trolls.
@maxdancona,
believe what you wish, I see it quite otherwise.
@farmerman,
The three self-identified trolls here have recently been on the receiving end of personal attacks from Setanta and Edgar (who I think you and I will both agree are not trolls). I don't think any of us trolls have made any personal attacks.
By the way, Farmerman, what do you think we should call the people who are not trolls. Edgar doesn't like the term "in crowd", and "non-trolls" sounds a little strange.
What should we call them?
@maxdancona,
May I join the club. Im pretty sure I have been called a troll several times.
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
May I join the club. Im pretty sure I have been called a troll several times.
The best thing to do is use the IGNORE button and move right along. Who cares what the morons say, think or write?? I don't!
@glitterbag,
Actually it whine and Jeeeez
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote: is this a pity party?
Nah.
At least, not in my estimation.
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
By the way, Farmerman, what do you think we should call the people who are not trolls. Edgar doesn't like the term "in crowd", and "non-trolls" sounds a little strange.
What should we call them?
Just a thought, even though the question wasn't directed at me (typical Troll behavior), "Trollphobes"?