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Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:49 am
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If you are right to believe that religious faith offers the only real basis for morality, then atheists should be less moral than believers. In fact, they should be utterly immoral. Are they? Do members of atheist organizations in the United States commit more than their fair share of violent crimes? Do the members of the National Academy of Sciences, 93 percent of whom reject the idea of God, lie and cheat and steal with abandon? We can be reasonably confident that these groups are at least as well behaved as the general population. And yet, atheists are the most reviled minority in the United States. Polls indicate that being an atheist is a perfect impediment to running for high office in our country (while being black, Muslim, or homosexual is not). Recently, crowds of thousands gathered throughout the Muslim world!aburning European embassies, issuing threas, taking hostages, even killing people!a in protest over twelve cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad that were first published in a Danish newspaper. When was the last atheist riot? Is there a newspaper anywhere on this earth that would hesitate to print cartoons about atheism for fear that its editors would be kidnapped or killed in reprisal?
@oristarA,
No. The writer means just plain stealing, thievery, taking something that doesn't belong to you, etc.
He's arguing against people who seem to think that you can only have morals or ethics if you believe in a god.
@oristarA,
What made it difficult for you to understand?
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
What made it difficult for you to understand?
Such insult against the distinguished members of the National Academy of Sciences is not conceivable.
@oristarA,
That's the point. It's inconceivable that such distinguished people would be assumed to be thieves simply because they aren't theists.
It would be an insult to think that they are, and the author is saying they are not.
In any event, it would be an insult to ANY human being to think they have no morals or ethics because they are atheists.
@chai2,
Quote:it would be an insult to ANY human being to think they have no morals or ethics because they are atheists.
It is likewise fatuous to imagine that deists have superior morals purely because of their belief.
And what about people who struggle sincerely to believe, but can't quite manage it?
@Tes yeux noirs,
Well, certainly, they're the worst of all.
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Well, certainly, they're the worst of all.
You were forced to read Thomas Hardy as well?
@InfraBlue,
I had to read his poetry and
Tess of the d'Urbervilles. That's a bloody depressing read.