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parados
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 02:57 pm
@coldjoint,
Anyone is free to go read the documents I linked to. If they don't say what I said, you are free to tell us what they really say. If you do that then everyone that stops by can compare my version, your version and the actual documents.

I sometimes wonder if you can even read. I know you won't be telling us what they say.

But keep on not thinking, Pinkie. It's what you are good at.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 02:57 pm
Quote:
FW Statement: We Won't be Silenced by the IRS

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/fw-statement-we-wont-be-silenced-irs?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Quote:

In light of recent revelations that the IRS used donor lists to target right-leaning groups for audits and the Government Accountability Office (GAO) stating that targeting of conservatives is still possible, FreedomWorks CEO Adam Brandon commented:

"It is completely unacceptable, and 100 percent illegal, for the IRS to target donors of right-leaning groups for audits. Even after the Lois Lerner scandal, this problem has not been fixed. This has to change now."

Brandon added, "Punishing people for their political views, no matter what they are, is a violation of our most basic freedoms. We will not be intimidated by the IRS or any government agency that wants to silence our beliefs. We stand with our 6.9 million activists in asking for basic protection of our First Amendment rights."

coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 02:59 pm
@parados,
Keep on lying. It s what you are good at.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif
parados
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 03:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Wow, Pinkie. You found someone else that is as incapable of thought as you are.
The IRS audited individuals not right-leaning groups. Their first sentence is obviously wrong on the facts.

Keep up the good work and keep on not thinking. It's what you are good at.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 03:02 pm
@coldjoint,
I see you can't tell us what the documents mean. Instead you just spew out some pink bromide.

Keep on not thinking, Pinkie. It's what you are good at.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 03:03 pm
@parados,
Keep on lying. It is what you are good at.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/hhhblmdd.gif
parados
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jul, 2015 03:35 pm
@coldjoint,
I see you can't point out where I am wrong about the documents that I linked to. You said there were truckloads of evidence and then sent us to JW. I specifically link to the documents and point to the fact that there is no evidence in them but only speculation that is not based on what is actually there. I wonder who is the one that is lying? The documents show us pretty clearly that it was you.


You make a statement and then provide no evidence or something that proves your statement false. It makes you look like an unthinking stooge.

So just keep on not thinking, Pinkie. It's what you are good at.
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raprap
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 03:57 am
@coldjoint,
Colddoperino that is the most salient response that you've ever made on this board.

Keep up the good work, Doperino -

Rap
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 12:32 pm
User ignored (view)
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 07:52 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Remarkably accurate description!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 07:53 pm
@coldjoint,
"Physician, heal thyself."
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 07:55 pm
@coldjoint,
http://www.alien-earth.com/images/smileys/spam.gif
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 07:59 pm
@coldjoint,
There is no-one on your ignore list.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 08:14 pm
@coldjoint,
Judicial Watch
Judicial Watch, a conservative foundation, fights for accountability and integrity in law, politics and government. Because no one is above the law!
judicialwatch.org

A bullshit website.

A sample of their non-partisanship:

"July 18, 2015
5 More Ways You Can Fight Corruption Now!

1. Use this website to learn more about all of our anti-corruption investigations and lawsuits, especially those involving the Obama administration. Share what you learn and educate your local community by writing a letter to the editor of your local newspaper that focuses on the need for better government transparency, stronger ethics in Congress, and ..."



From Wikepedia:

History

Founded by conservative attorney Larry Klayman in 1994,[4] Judicial Watch came to public attention after filing 18 lawsuits against the administration of Democratic U.S. President Bill Clinton and figures in the Clinton administration. The organization received considerable financial support from prominent Clinton critics, including $7.74 million from conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.[5] This led Clinton administration officials to accuse Judicial Watch of "abusing the judicial system for partisan ends."[6] According to Judicial Watch, Clinton and top Congressional Democrats encouraged the IRS to audit them and say that an IRS agent asked them, "What do you expect when you sue the President?"[7]

Judicial Watch's consistent investigations against Democratic figures have led to accusations that the group's lawsuits are focused on being politically motivated to help Republicans rather than enforce the law.[8] However, in July 2003 Judicial Watch joined the environmental organization Sierra Club in suing the George W. Bush administration for access to minutes of Vice President Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force.[9] After several years of legal wrangling, in May, 2005 an appeals court permitted the Energy Task Force's records to remain secret.[10][11]

In September 2003, Klayman left the organization to run for the United States Senate from Florida.[12] In 2006 Klayman sued Judicial Watch and its president Tom Fitton. The lawsuit charged Fitton with misrepresentation of his academic and professional credentials upon hiring, and upon assuming his position engaged in false and misleading fund raising, misuse of donor money, failure to appoint an attorney as Chairman, failure to comply with a promised severance package to Klayman, and other actions which damaged Judicial Watch, the donors and Klayman.[13][14] The majority of Klayman’s claims have been dismissed, including all claims against Fitton and the other officers of the organization.[15] The only claims by Klayman that remain pending before the Court consist of allegations that Judicial Watch breached a severance agreement with Klayman.[16]

Judicial Watch has asserted several claims against Klayman.[17] On October 14, 2009, the Court found that Klayman breached the severance agreement by failing to pay Judicial Watch, $69,358.48 in unreimbursed personal expenses. [18] The remainder of Judicial Watch’s claims against Klayman, which include additional claims of breaches of the severance agreement and trademark infringement, remain pending before the Court as of October 5, 2010.[19]

In 2006 Judicial Watch sued the Secret Service to force the release of logs detailing convicted former lobbyist Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House. This resulted in the release of a number of documents.[20][21]

In 2007 former donor Peter F. Paul sued Judicial Watch, accusing it of using his name to raise more than $15 million to support his lawsuit against Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton while doing little to advance his case.[22][23][24] All of Paul’s claims have been dismissed.[25]

Documentation:
4. Corn, David (2004-03-29). "Klayman Watch". The Nation. Retrieved 2007-06-02.
"Recipients by amounts granted by all Scaife foundations". Media Transparency. Retrieved 2007-06-02.
Segal, David (1998-05-30). "Pursuing Clinton Suits Him Just Fine". Washington Post. p. A01. Retrieved 2007-06-02.
Rush, George; Molloy, Joanna (25 August 2002). "ACE OF A GUY DEALING WITH THE GESTS IS NO 'PARTY'". The Daily News (New York).
Stephen Lemons. "Richard Mellon Scaife's Cash Pays For Judicial Watch's Ideologically Motivated Lawsuits". Phoenix New Times.
Bill Moyers Interview with Larry Klayman, Public Broadcasting Service, July 11, 2003.
Judicial Watch, Inc. v. Nat’l Energy Policy Dev. Group, et al., Judicial Watch web site.
Appeals Court Permits Energy Task Force Records to Remain Secret, Judicial Watch press release, May 10, 2005.
Pensacola News Journal: "Senate candidate Klayman to visit area." February 23, 2004.
Timothy Noah, Judicial Watch v. Judicial Watch, Slate, April 28, 2006.
United States District Court for the District of Columbia Civil Action No. 06-670 (Ckk); Larry Klayman, Plaintiff, V. Judicial Watch, Inc., et Al., Defendants; Memorandum Opinion, (December 3, 2007); United States District Court for the District of Columbia Civil Action No. 06-670 (Ckk); Larry Klayman, Plaintiff, V. Judicial Watch, Inc., et Al., Defendants; Memorandum Opinion, (June 25, 2009)
Klayman v. Judicial Watch, Inc., 628 F. Supp.2d 112, 118 (D.D.C. 2009).
Id.
Klayman, 628 F. Supp. 2d at 118.
Klayman v. Judicial Watch, Inc., 661 F. Supp.2d 2, 4 (D.D.C. 2009).
Klayman, 628 F. Supp.2d at 118.
The Jack Abramoff Scandal, Judicial Watch web site.
U.S. Secret Service Forced to Release More White House Logs Detailing Abramoff Visits, Judicial Watch website, July 7, 2007.
Kristen Lombardi, Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Rides Again; Hillary haters go wild over campaign finance case, Village Voice, May 17th 2005.
"Battling the Clintons, and each other (Judicial Watch may tie up Peter F. Paul)", The New York Times, March 15, 2005, p. B3.
"Former Donor To Clinton Sues Judicial Watch," Josh Gerstein, New York Sun, February 8, 2007, p.5
Paul v. Judicial Watch, Inc., Civil Action No. 07-00279 (RCL) (D.D.C. Feb. 2, 2009) (memorandum and order granting dismissal with prejudice).

Another example of their non-partisanship:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Photo_of_Judicial_Watch_letter.JPG/500px-Photo_of_Judicial_Watch_letter.JPG

Activities
Excerpt from fundraising letter sent to unnamed recipient (no longer living at address given).

According to David Corn, Judicial Watch uses litigation as its primary tool,[4] and its web page contains detailed information on current litigation matters.[26] Judicial Watch activities include:

"Digging into questions about Barack Obama's ... and his gang's efforts to steal the 2012 elections." [27]
Suing the town of Herndon, Virginia to stop a "day laborer" program on the grounds that it may provide employment for illegal aliens.
Suing the U.S. Senate to disallow the filibuster in their debates over confirmation of judicial nominees, coinciding with proposed efforts by Republican Senate leaders to internally do the same thing.
Criticizing the George W. Bush administration for their guest worker program, obtaining evidence of a spike in illegal immigration denied by the administration.
Initiating a request to the Naval Inspector General for an investigation into the "legitimacy and propriety" of the awards John Kerry received for his service in Vietnam.[28] The inspector general's office subsequently determined that Kerry's awards "were properly approved" and declined to take further action in the matter;[29] the office also responded to Judicial Watch's Freedom of Information Act request with documentation of its review.[30]
Criticizing the U.S. Navy for securing a public relations firm to encourage Puerto Ricans to vote to keep a Naval testing range at Vieques, Puerto Rico.
Investigating fund-raising activities relating to the 1996 United States campaign finance controversy.[31]
Rejecting the adjudicated innocence of David Rosen, who served as campaign finance director for Democrat Hillary Clinton's campaign for the U.S. Senate and had been indicted for filing false reports.
Condemning as murder the death of Terri Schiavo, who lived for 15 years in a diagnosed persistent vegetative state and whose husband wished to allow to die. Her parents wished that she be kept on life support, and were joined in their pursuits by prominent Republicans.
Calling for Republican Tom DeLay to step down as House Majority Leader calling his actions on Medicare "inappropriate" and "unacceptable".[32]
Filing a lawsuit against Vice President Dick Cheney and Halliburton for alleged fraudulent accounting practices.[33]
Filing a lawsuit against the U.S. Secret Service for denying Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for access to Obama White House visitor logs from January 20 to August 10, 2009.
Judicial Watch gained media attention when a judge in a separate lawsuit ordered the Department of Justice to release live video footage taken from relevant security cameras at The Pentagon on September 11, 2001. On May 16, 2006 the group released the videos from the two cameras on their website with hopes to "...put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77..."[34]
On June 20, 2007 the group released FBI documents related to the “expeditious departure” of Saudi nationals, including members of the bin Laden family, from the United States following the 9/11 attacks. According to one of the documents, dated September 21, 2001, Osama bin Laden himself may have chartered one of the Saudi flights.[35]
Launched an investigation into any White House's involvement in "branding" of the University of Arizona memorial for the victims of the 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, at which T-shirts bearing the slogan "Together We Thrive" were distributed. Judicial Watch demanded the university send them "any and all communications, contracts or correspondence between the University of Arizona and The White House concerning, regarding or relating to T-shirts bearing the logo 'Together We Thrive: Tucson & America,' distributed to attendees at the January 12, 2011, memorial service". The university replied that the White House had no involvement with the branding of the event, and that the slogan—which Judicial Watch described as "an obvious play on a popular Obama presidential campaign theme"[36]—was devised by a university student.[37]
Launched a federal lawsuit against the administration in October 2013 on behalf of Dr. Larry Kawa and his orthodontics practice, challenging the authority of the Obama administration to delay the employer mandate.[38] The case (No. 9:13-cv-80990) has been dismissed by federal district court and is under appeal in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.[39]
On September 23, 2014, a request by the Department of Justice to further delay the release of a Vaughn Index of its Operation Fast and Furious documents, which continue to be persistently sought by Judicial Watch, was denied by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.[40]

Funding

Between 1997 and 2002 Judicial Watch received $7,069,500 (unadjusted for inflation) in 19 grants from a handful of foundations. The bulk of this funding came from three foundations – the Sarah Scaife Foundation, The Carthage Foundation, and the John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.,[citation needed] which folded in 2005.[41] As of 2010, the Sarah Scaife Foundation was the group's largest contributor.[8]
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 08:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Racist much? Wait .... we already knew you are.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jul, 2015 09:38 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Racist


That extensive vocabulary of yours. Go away cretin.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:21 pm
@coldjoint,
So your answer is "yes".
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:32 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
So your answer is "yes".

Yes Obama is a jerk and a traitor.
thack45
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jul, 2015 02:25 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Racist


That extensive vocabulary of yours. Go away cretin.


coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
So your answer is "yes".

Yes Obama is a jerk and a traitor.


The only one you're fooling with these sorts of feeble retorts is yourself. Has it really never occurred to you in the years that you've been at this that you are sport to all who engage you; low hanging fuit, fish in a barrel?
 

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