You may find it surprising that many of us don't consider 'spreading democracy' a valid reason to invade other countries.
Cycloptichorn
Not at all. I've learned that long ago in this forum. But I do consider it a valid reason to invade another country when that country also harbors terrorists who have declared war against us.
How about a litle reality ....
Quote:I remember the "elections" that used to happen in the time of the Iraqi national dictator government, people were going in millions at those times too. Pre-elections rumors used to terrify people as much as the pre-elections rumors are terrifying Iraqis now. They used to tell us that anyone who doesn't go to vote will be punished, and that the voting ballots have secret numbers that the governmnet can read and discover who said NO. People believed those things at that time, and those rumors were an important reason why Iraqis went in millions to say YES to their national dictator. I am sure that some people went to vote because they believe in voting, or for other reasons. Yet, I am sure that people were not "crying out of joy" after they voted.
This should be a new quote from the 21st century, a similar quote to that of Marie Antoinette.
allow(ie): SIR, tens of thousands of people are dying, the rest have no water or electricity, and there is a lack of oil products. Life is tragic, and millions are leaving the country...
little bush: let them eat elections.
If bush, allow(ie), and the other monkeys want to jump and party for their fake victories, let them think more about the next step where no one will be celebrating.
I really feel surprised about the way the elections are being romanticized, as if Iraqis are another kind of creatures who don't give a damn for all the tragedies in their lives, and just care about voting. As if Iraqis are one-track programmed machines that the bush administration created to vote, vote, vote, and cry out of joy.
If anyone thinks that the current elections are fundamentally different from the ones that used to happen before the war, you are wrong. Maybe at that time Iraqis had one fake option, and now they have 100 fake options.
The current elections will open the doors of hell. They'll open the doors for internal conflicts, and they'll increase the attacks on the occupation forces, when everyone sees how the bush administration has no intention of pulling out from Iraq and paying compensation for the illegal war they started.
I really wish that Iraq will have the chance to hold real and sovereign elections one day.
as I said some days ago, Iraq needs a road map, a pre-elections road map before holding real elections. Elections are not papers with names thrown into boxes, they need a massive scale developed infra-structure and social capacity. Iraq needs a plan with a vision for ending the current crisis. The elections that happened yesterday will make the situation more complicated, and will make the possibility of holding real elections in the future more difficult. Iraq needs three major things before holding any elections :
One: ending the foreign military and political presence, an end for the occupation.
Two: fixing the destruction that occurred because of the illegal war, and paying compensation.
Three: Stoping the internal cycle of violence.
After these three points are made, we can talk about real constructive elections.
* Three-Point-Plan, yet much of hard work. I really think the first step to start in this plan is to confess that the Iraq war was illegal. A public apology and confession on the part of the occupiers will be the real turning point. Putting a schedule for pulling out the occupying forces should be announced as soon as possible, and groups of international forces can fill the security gap for the next couple of years with a clear schedule about the exact time of them pulling out of Iraq too.
* Compensation should be paid to Iraqis as individuals (ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars), the same case that happened with Kuwaitis after the illegal Iraqi invasion of 1990, and other compensation should be paid to Iraq as a country (some hundreds of billions of dollars), the same case that is happening with Iraq paying compensation because of the illegal acts of its government.
* The internal cycle of violence will decrease gradually with the withdrawal of the occupying forces and the enhancement of the economical situation. Iraqis can solve their problems by themselves; they don’t need a foreign occupation to help them.
The Super Stars of the Day
today, i have two super stars.
First, a smart reader from the US that sent me an email saying:
"Compensation, I am all for the idea as a US citizen if you count the 105 billion we have already spent and the next request for another 80 billion just made by bush. Not to count the loss of american contrators that a there to help you rebuild."
BTW, i sent him my regards, I am really thankful for all the money that little bush spent for destroying my country and killing my relatives. I will sent some more flowers to his address later.
Second, a real Iraqi hero. The new mayor of Baghdad, Ali Fadel, would like to erect a statue in the city to honor little bushy!
isn't this gorgeous?
Now... this is a real thing that makes me cry out of joy
Posted by: Raed Jarrar / 7:52 PM (29) comments
Yeah, because we all know that people in Texas know more about what's going on for real in Iraq than the people who live there. Myself included! Cycloptichorn
Well, now you know!
Gelisgesti wrote:How about a litle reality ....
Quote:I remember the "elections" that used to happen in the time of the Iraqi national dictator government, people were going in millions at those times too. Pre-elections rumors used to terrify people as much as the pre-elections rumors are terrifying Iraqis now. They used to tell us that anyone who doesn't go to vote will be punished, and that the voting ballots have secret numbers that the governmnet can read and discover who said NO. People believed those things at that time, and those rumors were an important reason why Iraqis went in millions to say YES to their national dictator. I am sure that some people went to vote because they believe in voting, or for other reasons. Yet, I am sure that people were not "crying out of joy" after they voted.
This should be a new quote from the 21st century, a similar quote to that of Marie Antoinette.
allow(ie): SIR, tens of thousands of people are dying, the rest have no water or electricity, and there is a lack of oil products. Life is tragic, and millions are leaving the country...
little bush: let them eat elections.
If bush, allow(ie), and the other monkeys want to jump and party for their fake victories, let them think more about the next step where no one will be celebrating.
I really feel surprised about the way the elections are being romanticized, as if Iraqis are another kind of creatures who don't give a damn for all the tragedies in their lives, and just care about voting. As if Iraqis are one-track programmed machines that the bush administration created to vote, vote, vote, and cry out of joy.
If anyone thinks that the current elections are fundamentally different from the ones that used to happen before the war, you are wrong. Maybe at that time Iraqis had one fake option, and now they have 100 fake options.
The current elections will open the doors of hell. They'll open the doors for internal conflicts, and they'll increase the attacks on the occupation forces, when everyone sees how the bush administration has no intention of pulling out from Iraq and paying compensation for the illegal war they started.
I really wish that Iraq will have the chance to hold real and sovereign elections one day.
as I said some days ago, Iraq needs a road map, a pre-elections road map before holding real elections. Elections are not papers with names thrown into boxes, they need a massive scale developed infra-structure and social capacity. Iraq needs a plan with a vision for ending the current crisis. The elections that happened yesterday will make the situation more complicated, and will make the possibility of holding real elections in the future more difficult. Iraq needs three major things before holding any elections :
One: ending the foreign military and political presence, an end for the occupation.
Two: fixing the destruction that occurred because of the illegal war, and paying compensation.
Three: Stoping the internal cycle of violence.
After these three points are made, we can talk about real constructive elections.
* Three-Point-Plan, yet much of hard work. I really think the first step to start in this plan is to confess that the Iraq war was illegal. A public apology and confession on the part of the occupiers will be the real turning point. Putting a schedule for pulling out the occupying forces should be announced as soon as possible, and groups of international forces can fill the security gap for the next couple of years with a clear schedule about the exact time of them pulling out of Iraq too.
* Compensation should be paid to Iraqis as individuals (ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars), the same case that happened with Kuwaitis after the illegal Iraqi invasion of 1990, and other compensation should be paid to Iraq as a country (some hundreds of billions of dollars), the same case that is happening with Iraq paying compensation because of the illegal acts of its government.
* The internal cycle of violence will decrease gradually with the withdrawal of the occupying forces and the enhancement of the economical situation. Iraqis can solve their problems by themselves; they don't need a foreign occupation to help them.
The Super Stars of the Day
today, i have two super stars.
First, a smart reader from the US that sent me an email saying:
"Compensation, I am all for the idea as a US citizen if you count the 105 billion we have already spent and the next request for another 80 billion just made by bush. Not to count the loss of american contrators that a there to help you rebuild."
BTW, i sent him my regards, I am really thankful for all the money that little bush spent for destroying my country and killing my relatives. I will sent some more flowers to his address later.
Second, a real Iraqi hero. The new mayor of Baghdad, Ali Fadel, would like to erect a statue in the city to honor little bushy!
isn't this gorgeous?
Now... this is a real thing that makes me cry out of joy
Posted by: Raed Jarrar / 7:52 PM (29) comments
Ok, that would be great. Please begin whenever you're ready.....
???I've gotten high plenty of times, but never that high....
How about a litle reality .... OK, I'm ready .... use your finger like you did before..... try not to move your lips, it only slows you down....begin with .. .'I remember the "elections".
