Bernie's In

@edgarblythe,

I pray to all the gods and all humanity, Cruz or Trump does not get in.

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@RABEL222,

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Hillary has the balls to confront congress but I dont think Bernie has.

Wow, a sexually inappropriate remark that insults both of these candidates. I don't know whether to be offended or impressed.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

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Hillary has the balls to confront congress but I dont think Bernie has.

Wow, a sexually inappropriate remark that insults both of these candidates. I don't know whether to be offended or impressed.

He's just bitter because Bernie is surging.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

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Hillary has the balls to confront congress but I dont think Bernie has.

Wow, a sexually inappropriate remark that insults both of these candidates. I don't know whether to be offended or impressed.

While you're working through that dilemma maybe you could kill time by responding to the idea about Hillary being better prepared and equipped to deal with congress than Bernie. You know, just for shits and grins.

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@edgarblythe,

According to CNN:

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CNN/WMUR Poll: Sanders trouncing Clinton in New Hampshire

There goes the Clinton dynasty!

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@snood,

snood wrote:

maxdancona wrote:

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Hillary has the balls to confront congress but I dont think Bernie has.

Wow, a sexually inappropriate remark that insults both of these candidates. I don't know whether to be offended or impressed.

While you're working through that dilemma maybe you could kill time by responding to the idea about Hillary being better prepared and equipped to deal with congress than Bernie. You know, just for shits and grins.

How is that? Cause she played Senator for a couple weeks? What qualifies Hillary in any way to be more qualified to deal with Congress?

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@snood,

Really Snood?? Republicans in Congress despise Hillary. What makes you think Hillary will be better at dealing with them?

She has extremely low favorability ratings (currently 15%) with Republicans and is seen as a divisive figure by many. The current Congress has at least as much antipathy toward Hillary than they have toward Obama.

Bernie has been in the Senate since 1991 and in the Senate since 2007 and has been a leader in working in a Republican Congress... passing amendments on issues from corporate crime, to veterans benefits to expanding funds for free health clinics to stopping goods made by child labor from being imported.

The facts show that Bernie is far more likely to be able to work with Congress, particularly Republicans in Congress, than Hillary will ever be.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

He's just bitter because Bernie is surging.

And I'm just bitter because it's becoming increasingly likely Ted Cruz or Donald trump will become our next president.

Thanks for that.

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@Kolyo,

Kolyo wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

He's just bitter because Bernie is surging.

And I'm just bitter because it's becoming increasingly likely Ted Cruz or Donald trump will become our next president.

Thanks for that.

Not if enough people vote for Sanders in the general election.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

Don't know why people curse socialism. Socialism is Medicare, Social Security, the nation's infrastructure, unemployment insurance -
How ya gonna get along without social programs?

"People" don't curse socialism. Not generally. Only Americans.

As for me, I am generally distrustful of both government and corporations. So I lean towards libertarian socialism rather than state socialism.

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@McGentrix,

I didn't say she was, I was just trying to urge max to drop the shock and respond to the posed point.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Really Snood?? Republicans in Congress despise Hillary. What makes you think Hillary will be better at dealing with them?

She has extremely low favorability ratings (currently 15%) with Republicans and is seen as a divisive figure by many. The current Congress has at least as much antipathy toward Hillary than they have toward Obama.

Bernie has been in the Senate since 1991 and in the Senate since 2007 and has been a leader in working in a Republican Congress... passing amendments on issues from corporate crime, to veterans benefits to expanding funds for free health clinics to stopping goods made by child labor from being imported.

The facts show that Bernie is far more likely to be able to work with Congress, particularly Republicans in Congress, than Hillary will ever be.

I didn't say Hillary would better deal with congress than Bernie. What I suggested was to get over being "offended or impressed" and respond to the assertion made.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You would think the old guard republicans would find a much better candidate than Trump-Palin's of the world.

Are you suggesting that either Hillary or Bernie are something to brag about? Really?

The ultimate form of stupidity is the presumption that your **** doesn't stink.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

You would think the old guard republicans would find a much better candidate than Trump-Palin's of the world.

Are you suggesting that either Hillary or Bernie are something to brag about? Really?

The ultimate form of stupidity is the presumption that your **** doesn't stink.

The distance between saying we have two candidates who are issues-focused, knowledgeable and competent, and saying their **** doesn't stink is vast.

Just as the credibility gap between the Dem candidates and the GOP clown car is vast.

But you don't even acknowledge global warming as a crises, so your inability to see the disaster calling itself the GOP is unsurprising, and consistent.

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I suggest you cannot have Bernie's convictions and be weak. He is in a very dangerous situation, which he never backs off of. When you go up against the most powerful institutions in the country you are exposing yourself to reprisals by a cold blooded bunch of individuals. I have no doubt he can be elected. It is my personal conviction that we cannot afford eight years of Hillary, Donald or Ted. Backing Bernie should be a no brainer.

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@Kolyo,

I refer only to America here, because we are discussing an American election.

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@snood,

I may understand what you mean. Bernie has his own agenda mapped out and it leaves no room for anyone else's ideas or compromise, not only that he largely focuses on two subjects, his health care plan and wall street regulation. I am not sure what his answer to that is, but he talks about it a lot. Not sure how he would get any of it passed congress. I hope he does not get elected because I think he would be largely ineffectual however well meaning.

When Obama was running, he made you feel as though we all had the answers and we all had to work together to get the changes we wanted affected. A community organizer in other words. Sanders makes you feel as though he has all the answers and he is somehow going to get it done by a big revolution of "progressives" pushing to have to it done. These "progressives" act as though the rest of us are just part of the problem and in league with the big money people.

The Times has an analyses of the debate of which I missed. Didn't even know it was on.

In Democratic Debate, Hillary Clinton Challenges Bernie Sanders on Policy Shifts

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@revelette2,

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I may understand what you mean. Bernie has his own agenda mapped out and it leaves no room for anyone else's ideas or compromise, not only that he largely focuses on two subjects, his health care plan and wall street regulation. I am not sure what his answer to that is, but he talks about it a lot. Not sure how he would get any of it passed congress. I hope he does not get elected because I think he would be largely ineffectual however well meaning.

This is simply untrue.

Bernie Sanders has been in congress for 25 years. He has worked with Republicans on important legislation and has shown the ability to both hold to principles and to compromise.

Bernie's record on this is far better than Hillary Clinton's record. Can you give me a single example (other than naming a Post Office) where Hillary reached across the aisle to work on important legislation?

I don't see any evidence that Hillary would be able to do this. Bernie Sanders has done it.

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@revelette2,

As I said before: It's just too hard, making a difference. So we might as well settle for the same old same old. But after the new trade agreements become ensconced permanently, after the rest of the infrastructure is left to crumble, after the safety net gets picked away at more, after voting rights are taken away from targeted groups, people may be wondering why they did not support the only candidate who actually plans to make an effort, win lose or draw.

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@maxdancona,

I am not talking about Hillary but Sanders. I am sure he has worked out compromises on gun laws and such things. However, his health care plan besides being risky and costly has no chance of passing with the present congress. I don't know what his plan is for big businesses and wall street. He just, to me, doesn't show a side to him that is willing to bend. I could be wrong. I am sure you will say I am. Wink

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