Lash
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jul, 2015 08:56 pm
You can all relax now and vote for Bernie. Smile

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lost-ground-for-gop-signals-challenges-for-2016/2015/07/04/0b6703d6-226e-11e5-aeb9-a411a84c9d55_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

In other news, Hillary isn't faring too well.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-and-bush-struggle-to-shed-dynasty-labels-in-nh-parades/2015/07/04/93173942-2285-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2015 10:40 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

As long as all Dems and Independents support WHOEVER wins the democratic primary and doesn't stay home and pout. We CANNOT afford a GOP President putting more Scalia's on the bench.


This is why we never elect good leaders.

If Hillary wins the nomination, I will vote for her (although I will probably get nice and drunk before I go to the polls). But in the primary, my support and my money go to Bernie.

I say we must support WHOEVER the democrat nominee is without further comment and this is why we never elect good leaders? WTF?



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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2015 11:03 am
Personally, I am not going to write derogatory comments about any Democratic candidates through the election. Why give ammunition to the teabaggers.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2015 12:03 pm
I posted this elsewhere, but it belongs here.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11024640_806284129464643_4548171780334678151_n.jpg?oh=ec05fc3f293d8dd7c26f90ec2c62c232&oe=562438D8
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 03:49 pm
I guess this is the place to post some thoughts that occurred to me while contemplating the coming election. In 2000 Al Gore was a liberal who a man named Ralph Nader dident think was ultra liberal enough so he ran as a third party ultra liberal like Bernie. Most people blame the Supreme Court for Bushes election but I have held a different opinion. 3 million votes is what Nader took from the democratic party. Enough to have elected Gore president. We would have avoided 2 wars that cost us 2 trillion dollars in unpaid national debt because the republicans decided to make the rich richer by cutting the income taxes on the rich. Not only that, we might have avoided 9/11 because the democrats passed on information to the republican government about what the islamic extremists were planning but Chaney and Bush decided that it was bogas information. I hate Nader with a passion and dropped out of one of the liberal organizations he was president or CEO of. So remember that when Nader, who was also an ultra Liberal ran in 2000 he got only 3 million votes, just enough to elect those assholes Bush and Chaney. Yes I know I cant prove that these things wouldent have happened but a liberal dosent go to war as quickly as a conservative who has billions invested in war making machinery.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 04:01 pm
Gore should have won that election handily, with or without Nader's presence. I love Gore, but he was a terrible campaigner, plus the media gave Bush a pass, despite his obvious stupidity. Anyway, Bernie is contesting Clinton for the nomination, not running an independent campaign.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 04:10 pm
@edgarblythe,
Yet. If he dont get the nomination he is the kind who would do so just like Nader. No matter the cost.
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 04:19 pm
@RABEL222,
I prefer to hear Bernie say that before accepting it.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 04:34 pm
@edgarblythe,
K. I hope he justifies your faith in him. After 80 years of disapointing politicians I dont trust any of them including Hillery. I have been forced once again to choose the best of a bad lot. Considering his position I have to give Obama credit for a job that is better than it should have been with the stupid republican opposition. But I still think he is a conservative.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 06:14 pm
@RABEL222,
Obama plays to the Democrats and is good for them in a number of ways. I don't think anybody else could have gotten a health bill through congress. But his end game seems to be to play up to big business. I am not a bit happy with that new trade bill.
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 06:31 pm
He PACKED the civic center in Portland. 7000 and people standing outside. I think current estimate is 5000 watching live streaming. He is NOW being taken seriously.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/hillary-and-bernie_b_7740032.html
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 06:37 pm
If he starts out by winning primaries, his stock will rise.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 08:30 pm
@RABEL222,
this is just so odd to see

RABEL222 wrote:
ultra liberal like Bernie.


Mr. Sanders is a liberal, but he'd barely be left of centre in a number of first world countries. I guess this demonstrates how far to the right the entire US has moved.
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 08:31 pm
Bernie is pretty close to Roosevelt, in my opinion and that's where I want to be.
roger
 
  0  
Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2015 10:07 pm
@edgarblythe,
When FDR was on the first class postage stamp, my family still sent mail. We put him on upside down.
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 06:33 am
@roger,
Well, you people put all his good work upside down now. Congratulations.
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revelette2
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 08:30 am
Bernie Sanders Has a Long Civil Rights History — So Why Is He Struggling With Minority Voters?

Quote:
It isn’t that minority voters dislike Senator Bernie Sanders. They just aren’t familiar with him.

Sanders’ presidential campaign seems to be hitting its stride, based on polls coming out of Iowa and New Hampshire. But while he gains traction among those early primary voters, he is failing to generate enthusiasm — or even name recognition — with one key Democratic voting demographic: minorities.

As Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager, told The New York Times:


“We’re reaching out, but it’s no secret that Bernie represents a state that is heavily Caucasian, and his decades of work on issues of importance to African Americans aren’t known amid the national conversation on race that is underway.”

In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll last week, 95 percent of nonwhite Democratic voters said they could see themselves supporting Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton for the party’s nomination, but only about one-quarter of respondents said they could see themselves voting for Sanders.

Bernie addressed his relatively anemic support among African-Americans during an interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday:


“I have a long history in fighting for civil rights. I understand that many people in the African-American community may not understand that.

“But I think the issues that we are dealing with, combating 51 percent African-American youth unemployment, talking about the need that public colleges and universities should be tuition free, raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, creating millions of jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure. These are issues that should apply to every American.”

The struggle for Sanders, who as a college student organized sit-ins against segregation and attended the 1963 March on Washington, is to make his views known to African-American communities quickly enough to have an impact on the election.

Sanders intended to do just that with an audience in Charleston, S.C., but he postponed that event after the deadly shooting there earlier this month. And when he spoke to a crowd of Latino government officials from across the country in Las Vegas in June, the Los Angeles Times reported that the room was about half-empty. Clinton, by contrast, was mobbed by fans when she spoke at the same event.
Matt Barreto, a pollster who focuses on Latino voters, told the Los Angeles Times:


“His name recognition in the Latino community is somewhere in between zero and extremely low. And you’re not going to win an election without Latino support.”

Sanders is faring much better in the early primary states. One New Hampshire poll released last week by WMUR and CNN found Sanders only eight points behind Clinton, trailing her 43 percent support with 35 percent.

Another poll by Bloomberg and St. Anselm College showed Sanders with the support of nearly a quarter of likely Democratic primary voters in both Iowa and New Hampshire, and he was gaining on Clinton’s large lead in both states.

But New Hampshire and Iowa are both over 92 percent white, according to the U.S. Census, and Sander’s home state of Vermont mirrors them racially. Vermont is 95 percent white, 1.7 percent Hispanic and only 1.2 percent black.

Demographics are not necessarily destiny; but unmarried women, minorities and millennial voters will make up a majority of the total electorate for the first time in 2016, according to pollster and former Bill Clinton advisor Stan Greenberg.

Without more support from minorities, Sanders may be tempting fate with his 2016 prospects.

revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 11:42 am
Normally I don't really talk about the thumbs ups or downs, but I am actually curious. Why the thumbs down? It is an accurate stating of a hard fact for Bernie supporters that Bernie Sandy is an unknown among minorities and as of yet, he is not garnering much support. He will need enthusiasm among the minorities in order to override the republicans in the general election if he should beat Hillary.
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 12:00 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

Bernie Sanders Has a Long Civil Rights History — So Why Is He Struggling With Minority Voters?

Quote:
Matt Barreto, a pollster who focuses on Latino voters, told the Los Angeles Times:


“His name recognition in the Latino community is somewhere in between zero and extremely low. And you’re not going to win an election without Latino support.”



100 % agreement with Mr. Barreto
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 12:02 pm
@revelette2,
there seem to be some wild thumbers on the go these days
 

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