Bernie's In

My problem is that next to REXRED you are the worst of the brain dead D press release regurgitators. Have you ever had an original thought?

Finally, the press starts to see the connection between Corbyn and Sanders.

I don't know how many elderly Jewish politicians (who self-identify as a Democratic Socialist) would wander into an ultra-conservative Baptist college in the deep South for Q&A... Sounds like the preamble for a joke.

Bernie Sanders is balls to the wall. If you get a chance, watch the clips of Bernie at Liberty University. He's Bernie everywhere he goes. They were quite good to him.

Have you ever had a thought?

Instead of blubbing about how you get the piss taken out of you for not being able to write properly. Grow a pair, drop the pathetic Zen prophet act, you're fooling nobody, acvt try to discuss the issues like a normal person.

Finally? You'd never even heard of Corbyn until I pointed out his existence to you.

Where's your civility now, spartacus? You sound jut like an angry little girl.

All you do is pull word salads out of your butt. Sorry you ran your luncheonette into the ground, but don't take it out on me and rex.

I read a little about it, mostly the headline, how did it go?

It was an incredible example of how people with seriously divergent opinions can be civil to one another and try to find common ground. Bernie and the kids were wonderful. He said the same stuff, proAbortion, gay marriage... But he added some Biblical stuff that really set a warm, authentically Jesus-like tone. Even agnostic Jews can see quality in things attributed to Jesus. A proud moment for both, I think.

Bernie is trending in three categories right now. One is the Super PAC of Hillary's that has started running attack ads and emailings focusing basically on his dirty Judaism and other scary accusations / smears; an encounter with Jesse Watters, Bill O'Reilly's minion; and the Liberty University summary.

Oh well. No criticism was fun while it lasted.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-president-change-politics

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It appears that it is on now. Bernie is responding to attacks from the Clinton SuperPAC.

I think the criticisms of Sanders you noted are themselves more or less politics as usual. The stark change here is that, until recently, Hillary had the luxury of ignoring Sanders, as she strolled her way to her then expected coronation as the Democrat candidate. Unfortunately for her Sanders turned out to have a degree of popular appeal that had not been seen before on the part of a long-term and (until then) much ignored socialist Senator from Vermont, who merely caucused with the Democrats. That, plus Hillary's new found vulnerability for her actions while Secretary of State, have changed the game entirely. The fact that, as she now struggles to deal with her own loss of credibility and trust, she also finds a need to take shots at Sanders is high prasise for the effectiveness of his campaign so far.

Found on Greg Palast's FB page today --
"When the Congressional Black Caucus asked me to present my discovery of the illegal purge of Black voters in Florida, only one white guy showed: Bernie Sanders. Hillary: MIA. I'm tired of hearing that Sanders doesn't reach out to Black folk. He's been on the front lines since Selma. I don't endorse candidates — but I also don't tolerate bullshit over facts." - Greg Palast

https://www.facebook.com/GregPalastInvestigates/photos/a.430516172127.205520.87777747127/10153622374042128/?type=1&theater

I think voter suppression/purging is an issue Sanders should amplify during his campaign. If the GOPers have a weak candidate there will be even more reason for a more widespread attack on voters.

AND YET the blacks choose Hillary. And they picked THe Professor, who really fucked them over. They dont seem to be too bright.

You know, you're absolutely right, it really doesn't make a lot of sense, he has been on the front lines on civil rights issues for years. I think it is more of a pragmatic choice, they don't think Sanders can win. At least that is my guess. I wish a poll was asked just for that question.

I can see why Hispanics are not wild about him. When asked about open borders he said something like being against it because it would take away jobs for people living here already. (not that I am for open borders, I think people should go through the immigration process when they cross the borders. I don't really know what open borders means but I assume it means people can come and go without any process?) He does however agree with a pathway for citizenship and hasn't called for a removal of the 14th amendment that I know of.

In any event, unless he can get those blocks of votes he will not be able to overtake Hillary.

I don't see why this post would be voted down. I think people are being a bit silly of late..

In any event, I am glad. I am not anti-religion the way some people seem to be and I like to see all the religions getting along and respected. He did show a lot of guts going there and they showed curtesy towards him.

(Obama would have had to go with armed guards, hyperbole I know but I doubt he would have been shown the same curtesy. Just saying.)

I think the only block that Hillary has a grip on is the black vote. But she does have some erosion there, too. Unless Bernie gets a grip on why his record and message doesn't resonate with Black voters - it will be a contentious fight all the way to the Convention. And Hillary is better at Convention warping that Bernie would seem to be.

Maybe if Lash didn't treat some of us so nastily?

When I read Palast's statement about being "tired of hearing that Sanders doesn't reach out to Black Folk <sic>", I thought he was a black person.
Never heard of him until now. I'll say this 'Snood as spokesperson for the black race' **** hopefully for the last time. I know a lot of white liberals are all righteously indignant on Sanders' part because they don't think black people are giving Sanders the fealty he deserves for being - how did Palast say it - "on the front lines since Selma".

I was even told here on this forum by a white person to 'Mark her words, the blacklivesmatter movement is going to need Sanders a lot more than Sanders will need them'. I didn't reply then, but I will now - horseshit. Sanders has voted the right way in Congress on issues of equality and parity, but he won't get our support because he says he's the guy who will be for the blacks. Here's the skinny - believe it or not. Black people have to believe someone "feels" them (as in "Ya feel me, yo?") before they will even listen to them. Call them whatever you need to call them, but that's the deal.

Hillary has had the black vote ever since Bill was able somehow to convince Black 'folk' that he "feels" them. Say it's unwise or unfair, or whatever. But Bernie still DOES have some reaching out and glad-handing and convincing to do. Saying "I been with you since King" just ain't gonna cut it. And he's not secured either the Balck vote OR the Latino vote - Hillary STILL has them, and Bernie's going to need them, if he intends to win and not just be noble. Take it or leave it, that's the facts, Jsck.

Early in Obama's race for the White House, many Afro-Americans and many black Preachers/Ministers claimed that "Obama wasn't black enough".