ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 03:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I edited, in case you miss it.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 03:16 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Sucks, big time.


I know a lot of people owe for going to college/university, probably started in on with expectation or hope re paying it off.
That is also sucky in it's own way, but I'm no expert.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 03:18 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
It is sort of like the U.S. is trying to eat its young.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 06:28 am
@ossobuco,
Its bad. The banksters have found a way to give the young a way to owe a long mortgage without giving them anything tangible in return. We're one of the very few countries in the world that charges insane prices for further education all the while dumbing down high school educations.

Its a scandal only Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are talking about.

Here in Texa,s why is it $15k a year min before housing,books etc to go to UT when that school alone has an $8 BILLION + endowment? Why are education lenders so tied into the admissions department - even somehow legally kicking back to people tied to admissions at UT???
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 06:39 am
Well blow me down! GOP friend posts Pro-Bernie FB meme.
The guy is a long-time friend, lives in Florida. He's a gun totin' Commie hatin' good ol' boy with no time for us lazy liberals. So imagine my shock when I opened FB yesterday and saw this post from him: "We're incarcerating more citizens than we're educating. This country is really starting to suck." It was followed by a graphic of Bernie Sanders' platform!

This could get interesting!
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 06:43 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
This could get interesting!

Finally the lightbulb goes off, after years of being told that Washington does not work and that many people are deeply pissed off about it, refuse the argument that the citizens are the problem.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 07:05 am
Coulter Repeats What is Becoming Obvious to the GOP: They Don’t Want to Run Against Bernie
Coulter: I wish Fox News would go a little easier on Hillary Clinton. She’s the one we want to run against. Could you guys just back off? Because I feel like I’m living through this, I feel like this is déjà vu again. We used to say, ‘Oh, the next president isn’t going to be a guy named Barack Hussein Obama.’ Our next president could be Sen. Bernie Sanders, if you people keep this up.

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/08/coulter-repeats-what-is-becoming-obvious-to-the-gop-they-dont-want-to-run-against-bernie/


For once, I think I actually agree with Ann. The GOP would no doubt rather run against a politically like-minded Hillary with a populist facade than an actual peoples candidate like Bernie.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 07:10 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
The GOP would no doubt rather run against a politically like-minded Hillary with a populist facade than an actual peoples candidate like Bernie.
you miss the point....many R's want to run against Hillary because they are sure they will beat her, and rubbing her face in the muck along the way will be great fun. THey think that will beat Sanders even more easily, but that would not be as much fun. Coulter is doing what someone (cant remember who) at the "debate" did, put Hillary on notice that they are waiting for her, with knives.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 11:47 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Coulter Repeats What is Becoming Obvious to the GOP: They Don’t Want to Run Against Bernie
Coulter: I wish Fox News would go a little easier on Hillary Clinton. She’s the one we want to run against. Could you guys just back off? Because I feel like I’m living through this, I feel like this is déjà vu again. We used to say, ‘Oh, the next president isn’t going to be a guy named Barack Hussein Obama.’ Our next president could be Sen. Bernie Sanders, if you people keep this up.

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/08/coulter-repeats-what-is-becoming-obvious-to-the-gop-they-dont-want-to-run-against-bernie/


For once, I think I actually agree with Ann. The GOP would no doubt rather run against a politically like-minded Hillary with a populist facade than an actual peoples candidate like Bernie.


Sure!!!!


And Ann Coulter is saying this to help the Dems realize what a terrible mistake they are making.

Bobsal...the Republicans would LOVE to run against Bernie Sanders...absolutely LOVE it.

He cannot win the presidential election...it would be a walk-over for the GOP.

With Hillary Clinton or one of the other Dems...they've got monumental problems.
revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 12:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I agree, look at the polls, Clinton is still in the lead over all other republican candidates, there is no way Coulter is worried about Sanders.

Dodging out of the way of spit balls....

Election 2016 Presidential Polls (rcp)
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 05:03 pm
In an interview, a NYT reporter asked Bernie about Hillary's hair. He was not pleased

There's one topic that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) refuses to discuss: Hillary Clinton's hair. When a New York Times reporter asked Sanders in a Q&A, "Do you think it's fair that Hillary's hair gets a lot more scrutiny than yours does?," Sanders had to repeat the question a few times to wrap his head around what he was supposed to be responding to.

He then told the reporter: "Okay, Ana, I don't mean to be rude here. I am running for president of the United States on serious issues, okay? Do you have serious questions?"

The reporter responded that her question about Hillary's hair was, in fact, a serious question due to the "gendered reason" for the media focusing more on female candidates' appearances. But Sanders just couldn't understand the concern for something as trivial as hair. "When the media worries about what Hillary's hair looks like or what my hair looks like, that's a real problem," he said. "We have millions of people who are struggling to keep their heads above water, who want to know what candidates can do to improve their lives, and the media will very often spend more time worrying about hair than the fact that we're the only major country on Earth that doesn't guarantee health care to all people."

http://theweek.com/speedreads/572211/reporter-asked-bernie-sanders-about-hillary-clintons-hair-reply-have-serious-questions
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 05:48 pm
Bernie Sanders has just doubled his support in less than two months
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He wasn't suppose to provide much of a challenge at all, but Bernie Sanders is starting to prove all the naysayers wrong. With a year until the primary election, the Independent senator from Vermont is nipping at the heels of Hillary Clinton.
Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) greets supporters while he campaigns on August 16, 2015 in Marion, Iowa.
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It's an almost weekly occurrence that Sanders continues to break his own records by speaking to crowds larger than the next one on the campaign trail. Over the weekend, Sanders gathered together a crowd of supporters bigger than any other candidate who attended the Iowa State Fair and generated excitement with his populist message. Fox News released their newest poll on August 17, and Sanders has now doubled his support in just eight weeks.

Clinton still holds a strong national lead, with 49 percent support, but Bernie Sanders is starting to gain major traction. Sanders' support now sits at 30 percent, double from the 15 percent in the same poll taken in the third week of June. Outside of national polling, Sanders' is doing well in two important primary states. One poll has Sanders leading in New Hampshire over Clinton, and the Iowa State straw poll also had the Vermont senator with a lead. The first primary elections take place in February with the Iowa caucus.

With the recent e-mail controversy continuing to put a damper on the Clinton campaign, Sanders has taken advantage of the opportunity to highlight his own cause. Refusing to personally attack Clinton, Sanders has stuck to an issue orientated message, one that seems to be working very well for him.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 03:30 am
Thought this might be of interest.

Quote:
Bernie Sanders is known to many for taking on Hillary Clinton in a bid to become the Democratic candidate in next year's race for the White House. But his brother has been fighting a political battle of his own in the UK.

Larry Sanders sounds pretty cheerful for a person who recently lost an election.

The 80-year-old retired social worker and academic came fifth in the seat of Oxford West and Abingdon in May, representing the Green Party.

"Although we didn't win, we increased our share of the vote... we recruited new members and established new branches," he says.

He has lived in the UK since emigrating from his native New York in the late 1960s, but his voice still bears a trace of his childhood which was spent in Midwood, Brooklyn, from where his father used to travel to Long Island to sell paint.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33254500
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 03:51 am
@revelette2,
It is a very dicey proposition to bash a popular candidate - especially one who refuses to do the same. Attacking a much beloved figure like Sanders may do a candidate much more harm than good.

On the other hand, Clinton is one of the most hated figures in American politics today. She is lo0aded with more baggage than any other candidate. She is an easy target and no one will feel she is unfairly attacked.

For good reason, the GOP wants to oppose HER, not Bernie.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 04:11 am
Yeah...sure they do.

To the dreamers...they do.

Sanders, for the GOP, is the dream candidate...one who simply cannot win in America right now.

The GOP is counting on squirrels on the far left to make that move...which is damn near the only one that would allow the Republicans to win the presidency.

Well...they can count on the laughable left to shout and spout...but they are not going to get their wish. The mainstream Dems will realize that putting a perceived socialist at the top of the ticket is political suicide.

It may not be Hillary Clinton the GOP faces in 2015...but it will not be Bernie Sanders either.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 04:26 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
The mainstream Dems will realize that putting a perceived socialist at the top of the ticket is political suicide.
I dont know that mainstream D's and R's still have the ability to control the outcome of their primaries. The legions of pissed off Americans who dont give a damn about the health of the parties is growing rapidly. We dont have good data but some say that half of Trump supporters are not even R's by normal standards, and that Trumps views are much more moderate than we have seen from the R's in recent years. This argues that the R's have lost control of their primary.

Also, Isn't Sanders an Independent? We could in theory get the D primary giving us a I, and the R primary giving us someone who is not even enough of an R to get the name RINO. I figure that Trump does the Putin He-man show well enough to avoid being a cuckservative, but it is not clear that the majority of the candidates will.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 07:22 am
@Frank Apisa,
I am curious Frank,

In 2007, there was a young upstart, a darling of the progressive movement, who stood up to challenge Hillary Clinton when nearly everyone thought Clinton was certain to be the Democratic nominee. He had some sort of socialist name... and maybe was from Kenya. And everyone knew he had no chance against Hillary, or in the general election. Do you remember him, Frank?

Were you saying the same things about this fellow in 2007 that you are saying about Bernie Sanders now? Because there were many people who sounded a lot like you do now including the argument about the Supreme Court.
revelette2
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 09:22 am
@maxdancona,
I feel as though I am going on a limb but I just don't think Sanders has the same appeal as Obama, nor the speaking voice. But then, I could be biased. Moreover, I don't think it is the socialist agenda which might make him loose, but simply what I mentioned first. Plus, he seems sort of one dimensional sort of like Warren concerned mainly with domestic concerns. Lastly, he is too extreme in some cases plus unrealistic in others. Just my take on it for whatever it is or isn't worth.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 09:27 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
The mainstream Dems will realize that putting a perceived socialist at the top of the ticket is political suicide.
I dont know that mainstream D's and R's still have the ability to control the outcome of their primaries. The legions of pissed off Americans who dont give a damn about the health of the parties is growing rapidly. We dont have good data but some say that half of Trump supporters are not even R's by normal standards, and that Trumps views are much more moderate than we have seen from the R's in recent years. This argues that the R's have lost control of their primary.

Also, Isn't Sanders an Independent? We could in theory get the D primary giving us a I, and the R primary giving us someone who is not even enough of an R to get the name RINO. I figure that Trump does the Putin He-man show well enough to avoid being a cuckservative, but it is not clear that the majority of the candidates will.


Actually...you may be right. The power brokers are losing control of the nominating process. It certainly is not the thing it was back 50 years ago...when primaries were mostly just decoration.

The Dem's are not going to lose this election by putting Sanders on the ticket.

That is my prediction...and we will see how it turns out.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 09:30 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

I am curious Frank,

In 2007, there was a young upstart, a darling of the progressive movement, who stood up to challenge Hillary Clinton when nearly everyone thought Clinton was certain to be the Democratic nominee. He had some sort of socialist name... and maybe was from Kenya. And everyone knew he had no chance against Hillary, or in the general election. Do you remember him, Frank?

Were you saying the same things about this fellow in 2007 that you are saying about Bernie Sanders now? Because there were many people who sounded a lot like you do now including the argument about the Supreme Court.



Gimme a break, Max...at no point has Obama ever asserted that he is a socialist...and I would not be surprised to hear that he has denies such a thing. He is barely a liberal...so "socialist" is far over the line.
 

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