Bernie's In

But Bernie blew her away in North Dakota, 350 votes to 100. Caucus.

French heck, I'm a dago second generation. My grandparents came from Italy. I was raised on wine and coffee.

This is more "interesting" observation about Bernie...lately:
From Daily Kos:

The speech was mostly good. There were bad moments, but he was having a pretty bad night electorally, and we now have learned that he heard about the Politico article of his own staff throwing him under the bus shortly before he hit the stage. His crowd booed the mention of Hillary Clinton’s name, and he probably didn’t do enough to stop it, but these kinds of wounds take time to heal.

And then there were the chants of “BERNIE OR BUST!” coming from some in the audience. In the past I’ve seen him smile, wait for the chants to die down, laugh a bit. He didn’t seem to do that last night. From my perspective, I thought he was realizing how much damage he had done by helping foster that sentiment. I thought it seemed like he was preparing to do the right thing.

Apparently I was wrong.

Maybe I saw what I wanted to see in his speech last night. I thought he was turning the corner, was preparing to show some class and integrity. Maybe not.

I hoped he was the honest, good, decent man I thought he was before he ran for President. If his campaign is now touting Bernie or Bust on their website and in their press releases, he is none of those things.

If this is the path he chooses, he is the bitter megalomaniac depicted in the Politico article, and he needs to be stopped. I still have hope he does the right thing. The first thing he needs to do is to strongly denounce the pathetic and anti-progressive whiners in the “Bernie or Bust” fringe. Embracing them today is a step in exactly the wrong direction.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/8/1536127/-Damn-it-Bernie-WHY

I haven't read daily kos all election season, their site drags because of all the ads (at least it does for me) but I noticed there were a lot of articles on Bernie to give it up. He really should.

Did you read this one? Really telling, because it's written by a former B or B'er.

Bernie supporter's view point

Useful. I have questioned myself for moving to HC, but have not liked at least some of his aides and his rants, at the same I agree with some fair amount of of his early issues.

HC is a woman I may end up woman-in-blacking. But he bothers me more, re emotionality.

Just for the record - Bernie or Busters are NOT the majority of Bernie supporters. Most of Bernie's supporters are well intentioned, patriotic Americans who believed Bernie was the best way to achieve their goals, but understand that there are other things that are important, too - like Hillary must defeat Trump.

Bernie or Busters believe that the only thing that mattered was getting Bernie
elected president, and **** on everything else. Or at least that's how they behave and speak.

nods in appreciation to Rabel

What part of Italy? Did a north-south vacation in Italy the last time I visited. Really enjoyed the Isle of Capri area, and I still think about the clams in garlic sauce.....

Wow that video has seemed to gone viral, I counted 20 views per minute.

I use to have a lot of respect for Elizabeth Warren but I have since questioned that respect. My main issue is how she focused on money in politics and used Hillary as an example of the problem but now she endorses her. Wow

So who do you retain respect for?

Between Hillary and Trump, I favor voters who pick Hillary.

I agree. She vociferously heralded her standards, and when Hillary breached them, she proclaimed it fearlessly. Suddenly, she throws in behind her. Gee, that was quick.

She smells.

Sicily. Never been there but my brother has. Even visited some of our relation. Said they were swell.

You can always vote for Trump. I'm sure he is much more to be trusted than anyone in the democratic party.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/283003-sanders-surrogate-blasts-warren-you-dont-get-any-brownie

A lot of progressives feel the same thing about Warren. She was so respected for her fearless stand against establishment bullshit. Her calling out of Hillary went viral... But when the progressives needed her, she sat quietly weighing her odds. She could have made the difference.

I like Nina. I hope she runs for office and helps Bernie lead the new party.

I'm guessing nobody passes the "ideological purity test" except Sanders. AmIRight?

Alternately, "if you're not with me, you're against me!" Where have I heard that before?