snood
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 08:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
Yeah, no run-away emotions from the Bernie crowd.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 08:13 pm
@snood,
I'm glad you agree.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 08:18 pm
I love to hear Hillary speak just as much as others do at times.

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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 08:42 pm
How many people online are being paid to spread deception and propaganda so that political whores may have a chance at the presidency?

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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 08:55 pm
What do you think about money laundering and funneling money for elections?

Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2016 10:28 pm
@reasoning logic,
The Young Turks got a $5 Million dollar loan from a financial firm headed by conservative Buddy Roemer, who opposes efforts to hold down climate change, opposed the woman's right to choose, and just about every progressive thought. Yet The Young Turks criticize every progressive if they don't strictly adhere to the Young Turks' line-while they themselves take $5 Million loans from conservatives.

Wonder why The Young Turks pound on Hillary, whom the Republicans are afraid of facing in November, and exalt Bernie Sanders, whom the Republicans are praying to face in November? Maybe the Republicans just loaned them 5 Million reasons why?
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 05:48 am
@Lash,
You raised millions FOR BERNIE... People gave their hard-earned dollars for HIM, and because they thought he had a chance to win. Never underestimate the importance of leadership in politics.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 05:50 am
@reasoning logic,
The Hillarettes are sore winners. They are massively angry in spite of winning the primaries. Go figure.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:28 am
@Olivier5,
Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

Do you think this wouldn't have happened for Warren? Do you think the coalition will fall apart without Bernie specifically or just without a figurehead?

If members of the movement (I wish we had a name...) are discussing priorities and next steps that don't include Bernie, it sort of makes a statement.

Local networks have formed. Communications independent of Bernie take place regularly. These meetings planned post-primary and pre-convention were not scheduled via the Sanders campaign.

But, things that we can watch unfold negate the need to argue.

We'll see.

Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:39 am
@Lash,
I'm saying good leaders are rare.

I don't know if it would have happened for any other candidate. Warren didn't want to run. Bernie ran, in spite of his (by then) very low chances. He decided to make a stand, and he did so splendidly. When you have a leader of such a high and rare quality, you protect and value him, and you follow his lead. You don't throw him under the bus.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:46 am
@Olivier5,
I guess each individual decides what they feel is right for them.

Too many times, people shift their loyalty to a party or a person, and their principles- the vitally important issues- are lost.

Parties become corrupt, people come and go and 'evolve;' I, and the people I respect, are focused on principle and policy.

I feel confident Bernie Sanders would say the same.

Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 07:31 am
@Lash,
Yes, to each his own. I live in Europe so I guess it's easier for me to feel a bit detached from all this. I see good leaders as rare and precious, whereas good ideas are sold by the dozen. A good leader emerged in these elections, even though it seems he won't get elected. I trust Senator Sanders to take the best decision regarding the next step after the convention, and I shall keep watching what he does after the elections with great interest.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:05 pm
New Bernie song

Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2016 06:46 pm
@Lash,
Quote Lash:
Quote:
Parties become corrupt, people come and go and 'evolve;' I, and the people I respect, are focused on principle and policy.

I feel confident Bernie Sanders would say the same.


Your traditional party is about to nominate Donald Trump, who at this time appears unelectable, and so you thought you'd pretend to be a Democrat and push the weaker candidate, Bernie. If that doesn't work you plan to tell all Bernie supporters to hold that grudge and don't vote for the "corrupt" Democratic candidate.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 03:42 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
you plan to tell all Bernie supporters to hold that grudge and don't vote for the "corrupt" Democratic candidate.


Unlike some other political groups, "sheep" 'Most of Bernie's followers are honest people, think for themselves and believe that everyone else should be allowed to do the same without the influence of antisocial propaganda.

If anyone wants to vote for a corrupt politician that is their choice.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 03:46 am
@reasoning logic,
I do take your point, but you still have to look at the likely alternatives.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 03:49 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
you plan to tell all Bernie supporters to hold that grudge and don't vote for the "corrupt" Democratic candidate.


Unlike some other political groups, "sheep" 'Most of Bernie's followers are honest people, think for themselves and believe that everyone else should be allowed to do the same without the influence of antisocial propaganda.

If anyone wants to vote for a corrupt politician that is their choice.

Nobody's stopping them from voting for their corrupt candidate. They just can't force anyone else to do it.

If they're so worried about her losing, maybe they should vote with us.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 07:40 am
"Hillary Clinton Trolls Shut Down Pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook Groups"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141428148

Possibly, this could backfire in the fall election.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 07:42 am
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:

"Hillary Clinton Trolls Shut Down Pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook Groups"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141428148

Possibly, this could backfire in the fall election.


Hillary Clinton didn't do ****. It was Hillary Clinton supporters doing the trolling. That title is intentionally misleading. I'm sure Bernie wouldn't want to be held responsible for all the things his supporters do.

Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2016 07:51 am
@reasoning logic,
Come on people! Don't vote down music. How low can you get?
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