Bernie's In

@reasoning logic,

Heh. Facts are so irritating to Hillarybots.

Btw, you seem to be riding the crest of the most current news in the progressive movement. I knew about the sentiment expressed in the vid you shared, but hadn't seen it. Could you share where you're getting all these great pieces? Reddit?

I know Reddit is a massive communications source for the movement, but the site is clunky for me... But maybe I should give it another go.

Thanks, btw.

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@reasoning logic,

In closed primaries, independents can't vote unless they change they change their party affiliation in time. In election times, things get hectic, mistakes are made, on the other hand sometimes the mistakes are made on voters part. Perhaps next year, NY will change to open primaries. All along Bernie has done better with open primaries' and caucuses where independents or people can switch or just vote for who they want on election day. It has been the pattern through out. Even before going into NY, Hillary was slated to win NY by double digits for precisely those reasons.

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@Lash,

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Could you share where you're getting all these great pieces? Reddit?

I use youtube, I type in Bernie sanders and use filter for today or last hour.

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@Lash,

Facts? The simple fact is that Bernie Sanders at this point needs 68% of the remaining delegates. Another simple fact is Bernie Sanders is polling about 40% in the majority of the primaries on next Tuesday.

A hard fact for you to understand is that the likelihood of Bernie being the nominee is about 1 in a million. He isn't going to have the most regular delegates. He isn't going to have the most Democratic votes. He isn't going to be the Democratic nominee. The only question is whether he and his followers will ever acknowledge this fact.

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@Lash,

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The movement loves Sanders, and he has provided a desperately needed, once in a lifetime figurehead that gathered us together, but the movement doesn't NEED him. Just love and respect him and will be forever beholden to him. He has shown the power of a clean campaign, the method of clean campaign finance, and our strength in numbers ( many of us had no idea there were so many like-minded change advocates --& it appears no one else knew either.)

I seriously doubt the 'movement' can dispose of Bernie, who has been its raison d'être so far, and keep moving as a cohesive group. It'll keep splintering forever without a chatismatic leader at its helm.

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@Olivier5,

You know I appreciate you and your thoughts. You seem to be an even-handed guy not wedded to party politics.

I don't think you have enough accurate information to base that opinion on. There were disparate pockets of like-minded people that did need a person to coalesce around. We are together now.

Bernie is not the reason we exist. Not by a long shot.

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@Lash,

I have voiced that same sentiment more than once. With or without Sanders, the elections in just two years time will, I predict, be decided by people fed up with the old order.

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@edgarblythe,

I certainly hope Mr Sanders will be there helping and pushing candidates in the midterms. Those elections really matter more than the presidential election.

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@reasoning logic,

Bernouts need a checkup from the neck up.
Observe this conversation.
Quote revellette, sarcastically:

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the whole state of NY was conspiring to keep independents and people who moved etc.. from voting for Bernie.

Quote reasoning logic, seriously:

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I wonder at times if you may be correct at what you post.
The green counties are what Bernie won and the Gold are what Hitlery won.

Great catch, reasoning logic. Except the counties in yellow, ahem, "Hitlery's" counties, are New York City and suburbs, (which themselves contain about 63% of the state's population), and together with Erie County, (Buffalo), Monroe County, (Rochester), and Onondaga County, (Syracuse), comprise over 75% of the state's population.

Newsflash, genius, cows and cornstalks don't get to vote. Although no doubt that's what Bernie's Army will be screaming for next.

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@Blickers,

Proves that pictures are not always what they seem. Thanks for the clarification.

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Oliver Stone Makes Impassioned Plea for Sanders: ‘Hillary Clinton Has Effectively Closed the Door on Peace’ - See more at: http://www.fantasticword.com/usa/oliver-stone-makes-impassioned-plea-sanders-hillary-clinton-effectively-closed-door-peace/#sthash.j9yzmNVI.dpuf

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Forgive me Edgar, but that article is such bologna. Because Hillary is perceive as being a Hawk, the smart thing to do is let someone in charge who thinks we may be better off if North Korea gets Nuclear weapons?

Trump's nuclear views are terrifying: Column

I know you guys are feeling let down, perhaps you feel cheated, but that is no reason to loose your minds.

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@Lash,

That was the same argument made about Obama. Even with Obama in office, those people just got disillusioned and have now hitched their wagons to Bernie until they get disillusioned again. They aren't a movement. They are solitary street preachers acting in isolation and will go back to that.

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@parados,

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They are solitary street preachers acting in isolation and will go back to that.

Is that the same thing as movers and shakers?

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This is something that should be shared with voters in California who think they are registered as independents.

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@reasoning logic,

The reason Bernie is losing is because the majority of democratic voters arent voting for him. This is voting suppression? The only way he can win states is in caucuses that suppress the elder vote. Isent that hypocritical of the Bernie people?

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@RABEL222,

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The only way he can win states is in caucuses that suppress the elder vote. Isent that hypocritical of the Bernie people?

I think this new add for Hillary may help your confirmation bias.

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@Blickers,

Of course a newsflash for you Blickers, is that outside of the big cities nobody wants to vote for Hillary. If there were no large cities, she'd be at the bottom the barrel when the delegate count was being shown. That guy O'Malley would likely best her.

So what it comes down to here Blickers, is that when it omes to the main event in November are there or ate there not enough people in the large cities of this country to carry her or will she be thrashed more soundly than wheat?

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@Sturgis,

An interesting argument Sturgis but it doesn't hold up to her wins in many states.

Iowa - Hillary won half the counties
Nevada - Hillary won 5 of the 12 counties that weren't Reno or Vegas
South Carolina - Hillary won every county
Texas - Hillary won 239 of the 254 counties
Florida _ Hillary won 58 of the 69 counties
Virginia - Hillary won 83 of the 95 counties
Massachusetts - Hillary won 7 of the 14 counties
Georgia - Hillary won all counties but one
Arizona - Hillary won 14 of 15 counties

Even in states she didn't win a lot of the small counties like NY and Michigan, she still has 40% or more in the majority of those counties.

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I am apparently milktoast. I can barely stand Hillary for her death of Kaddafi glee, not that I liked him.
I get her competence.
I'm not clear I want it.

On Sanders, I've gone from taking him on my takes to questions wondering if he is capable.

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