oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 09:30 pm
@revelette2,
Quote:
Lonnie Phillips is filing for bankruptcy because he owes $203,000 to the company that sold his stepdaughter’s killer 4,000 rounds of ammunition over the Internet.

Can that sort of debt be discharged with a bankruptcy?

I hope not.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 09:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
In a prolonged exchange Thursday afternoon, former President Bill Clinton forcefully defended his 1994 crime bill to Black Lives Matter protesters in the crowd at a Hillary Clinton campaign event.

I feel bad for the Clintons. It must be so exasperating to have people demand that he do something in the '90s and now turn around and condemn him for doing exactly what they themselves had demanded of him.

Bill must be so frustrated about this.
Lash
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 09:33 pm
Bernie surges past Hillary.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-national-poll
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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 09:35 pm
@oralloy,
The victims didn't demand it and I know I didn't.
Blickers
 
  2  
Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 09:56 pm
@Lash,
Quote Lash's article:
Quote:
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1.05 million prisoners were held in federal or state facilities in 1994. By 2014, it was 1.56 million.

Okay, so by your own article's admission, state and Federal prisoners increased 48% since 1994. But the country has increased in population by 22% since 1994 as well. So that means the increase in state and Federal prisoners has really only increased 26%.

However, the number of murders has decreased from 1994, going down from 23,326 people killed in 1994 to 14,249 people killed in 2014. That's a decrease of 39%. So we increase the prison population 26% and drive down murders by 39%. And dropping lower year by year

You've got a problem with this? What's your solution-open the prison gates, let everyone out and start counting the resulting corpses?
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 10:41 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
The victims didn't demand it and I know I didn't.

Back in the 1990s, the leaders of the African American community were demanding these tough crime laws and accusing everyone who opposed them of being racists.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2016 10:49 pm
The ones that supported the bill were not the victims.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 01:12 am
@Lash,
Quote Lash:
Quote:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X412G

The truth about Clinton's racist laws revealed.

...........................VS. .............................................

Quote Oralloy:
Quote:
Back in the 1990s, the leaders of the African American community were demanding these tough crime laws....


Who's Telling The Truth?

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Which one is right? Vote now.
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 05:08 am
Dr. Jill Stein has one of the more profound statements about the recent revelations of the entrenched plantation system called the Democratic Party, "Voting for the lesser of two evils has brought us our greatest fears."

The truth about how the black race in this country has been subjugated by Democrats is now on record and undeniable.

MLK and so many others have warned against the deception by the white liberal.

Sea change in American politics today, ladies and gentlemen. Black Americans are climbing out of the back pocket of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bill Clinton sounded exactly like our BillRM yesterday, telling BLM they should be more concerned about "black on black crime."

Social media is ablaze.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:00 am
Bernie's coming to Rome next week! Maybe I can stalk him? :-)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-plans-short-hiatus-from-new-york-campaign-trail-to-speak-at-the-vatican/?tid=a_inl
ossobuco
 
  2  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:04 am
@Olivier5,
April in Roma, nice!
Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:08 am
@ossobuco,
Come anytime, babe!
engineer
 
  4  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:12 am
Krugman is not a Sanders fan.

Quote:
The easy slogan here is “Break up the big banks.” It’s obvious why this slogan is appealing from a political point of view: Wall Street supplies an excellent cast of villains. But were big banks really at the heart of the financial crisis, and would breaking them up protect us from future crises?

Many analysts concluded years ago that the answers to both questions were no. Predatory lending was largely carried out by smaller, non-Wall Street institutions like Countrywide Financial; the crisis itself was centered not on big banks but on “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers that weren’t necessarily that big. And the financial reform that President Obama signed in 2010 made a real effort to address these problems. It could and should be made stronger, but pounding the table about big banks misses the point.

Yet going on about big banks is pretty much all Mr. Sanders has done. On the rare occasions on which he was asked for more detail, he didn’t seem to have anything more to offer. And this absence of substance beyond the slogans seems to be true of his positions across the board.

You could argue that policy details are unimportant as long as a politician has the right values and character. As it happens, I don’t agree. For one thing, a politician’s policy specifics are often a very important clue to his or her true character — I warned about George W. Bush’s mendacity back when most journalists were still portraying him as a bluff, honest fellow, because I actually looked at his tax proposals. For another, I consider a commitment to facing hard choices as opposed to taking the easy way out an important value in itself.
ossobuco
 
  2  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:13 am
@Olivier5,
Never in summer..
revelette2
 
  2  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:14 am
@Lash,
Perhaps Bill Clinton was being brave and speaking a truth regardless of how unpopular it is. It does seem as though the movement is ignoring the killings in Chicago by blacks against other blacks. It is true there is a injustice with some cops against black men and women, but there is also a lot of killing going on with blacks which is being ignored.

Quote:
Former Baltimore Raven Ray Lewis posted a passionate 10-minute video to his Facebook page in which he questioned how the Black Lives Matter movement could ignore black-on-black crime.

“I’m trying to figure out why no one is paying attention to black men killing black men,” Lewis said.

The video, which received about 43,000 likes and has been viewed more than three million times, was created to call attention to the recent surge of violence in Chicago.

“Why do we always find ourselves half the victims,” the 40 year old said. “Why do we always find ourselves half the victims, and now we have the separation once again that we’re being victimized because of one bad white cop, two bad white cops, three bad white cops, killing a young black brother. But every day we have black-on-black crime, killing each other? Police in Chicago reported 677 shootings this year. Last year, it was 359. The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we’re not rioting in the streets [when] black on black killing each other,”

The legendary linebacker seems to think with the recent rising in violence in Chicago, that (some) black people don’t appreciate other black people.

“I’m just asking this one simple thing: When will we appreciate who we are? When will our skin color start paying attention to our own skin color? “I’m trying to figure out how in the month of march there’s more murders in Chicago then there are then there are days in the month. Forty-five murders in the month of [March] in Chicago.”

While some people were in full support of Lewis speech, others felt as if he was a little tardy to the party. Activist Tamika D. Mallory to Instagram Saturday to respectfully disagree with the NFL champ.


source
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:48 am
@engineer,
In capitalism, there should be no such thing as a bank too large to fail. Failure is part of the game, and should always be. So Sanders is right that too large banjks should be broken. Otherwise when they fail, they bring down the whole economy with them.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 08:49 am
@ossobuco,
Now is the best time...
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 09:11 am
Coming back to the Daily News interview, Bernie's unambiguous message about Israel need to withdraw from occupied territories was great, i think. Anyone knows what Hillary's position is on that?
snood
 
  4  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 09:15 am
Paul Krugman is pointing out, in this NYT article, that Bernie is starting to act like his bots. I think we need to ask ourselves what Bernie's motives would be, if he continues to fight against Clinton this hard EVEN AFTER it was clearly mathematically impossible to win? Ego? Thirst for power and recognition? Not our Berniekins, right?
Read this, and let me know what you think.

Sanders Over the Edge
Is Mr. Sanders positioning himself to join the “Bernie or bust” crowd, walking away if he can’t pull off an extraordinary upset, and possibly helping put Donald Trump or Ted Cruz in the White House? If not, what does he think he’s doing?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/opinion/sanders-over-the-edge.html
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revelette2
 
  2  
Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2016 09:32 am
@Olivier5,
You have bought into the hype, hook line and sinker big time. Bernie was farthest thing from unambiguous when it came implementing what he said because he said Israel would be in charge of the decision to pull back which in the end means nothing would in fact be done.


Quote:
“You’re asking me a very fair question, and if I had some paper in front of me, I would give you a better answer,” Sanders replied. “But I think if the expansion was illegal, moving into territory that was not their territory, I think withdrawal from those territories is appropriate.”

So, if the United States were to determine that some settlements are illegal under existing treaties and agreements, then a Sanders administration would expect Israel to pull back?

“Israel will make their own decisions,” Sanders replied.

The Daily News continued, asking him if he supports the Palestinian leadership’s efforts to drag Israel before the International Criminal Court over alleged war crimes.

No, said Sanders.

“Why not?” the Daily News asked.


 

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