Organization attempting to ban Moore's flick

Does he give five cents a bottle?

The theatrical release will likely blow all past documentaries out of the water no matter how many screens -- it's the cable and DVD release that cannot be reckoned with. BTW, why has this movie got them shaking in their boots? Do they actually believe because they are telling everyone it's false that everyone will believe them anymore than Moore doesn't expect everyone to believe him?

Thank you fans, how bout some candy for your master?

This movie is going to be pretty big. After I saw the trailer (http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/)I knew I had to check it out.


Anyway, regarding propaganda? It sucks.

I can't wait to see it!

propaganda - ha ha - another vast right wing conspiracy....

And where are you from?

Good morning, Anoxia.

Be careful with that coffee.... it looks hot!

Top o' the mornin' to ya, gustavratzenhofer!

It seems Ray Bradbury is pissed at Moore as well. Meh, won't stop me from seeing the flick and passing judgement for myself:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20040607/va_mi/inside_move__bradbury_burned_by_1

I know someone who is involved in a controversy similar to Bradbury's complaint. I think he is going to have to be satisfied with the knowledge that he contributed a concept to the culture and live with the fact that it has moved beyond him. For a science fiction writer (which is generally considered by critics to be the bottom of the literary barrel) that is quite an accomplishment.

Moore may have taken a clue from Mel Gibson -- the controversy is adding to ticket sales and the more the opposing side gnashes and snarls, the more people will want to go see the film (even those who disagree).

I heard that Moore shows the full uncut scene of Bush sitting in front of the classroom for something like 7 minutes, listening to children read AFTER he was told that America was under attack. Surreal.

That alone is why I'm going to try to get my father to see this flick with me. He's pissed at all the f*ckups of the administration for the past few months, but he STILL supports the guy. Its amazing to me.

If Moore really copied the title without talking to Bradbury, and without any form of attribution, that's just rude. It is also completely unnecessary. I'll pay attention to the credits in the movie for a change, and if there is no credit paid to Bradbury for the title, I'll share his outrage.

But first, I'll watch the movie and see for myself.

I could call Bradbury and see if he's really pissed. Is this something like Al Franken using "fair and balanced?" The title does not violate any copywright laws.

It's not about laws, it's about courtesy. As Bradbury says himself, he isn't going to sue, he just thinks what Moore did was rude. He isn't accusing Moore of being a criminal, he's accusing him of being "a jerk". (His choice of words). Being a jerk is legal, but that's beside the point.

I disagree it's the same thing as Fraken using "fair and balanced", in at least two respects. First, "Fair and balanced" is a descriptive phrase people have been using before Fox News even existed. The template "Fahrenheit X (The temperature at which Y burns)" is an invention of Bradbury's which didn't exist before in the context of films. Using this template doesn't merit paying royalities, but it does merit paying credit.

Second, Franken arguably intended to be rude, or at least unfriendly, to Fox News when he chose the title. By contrast, Moore copied the title in an affirmative way. That's more like him calling his documentary "For a handful of dollars" without giving Sergio Leone (director of "for a fistful of dollars") any credit.

It's not a legal problem, but it is a problem of manners.

I bet Michael Moore's loving this. It just goes without saying that a film always does better at the box office when it has publicity, good or bad.

And those people call them selves Americans, Haven't they read the 1st amendment?

Personally, I think Moore is a little out there, but I admire his bluntness. He's no worse than Limbaugh who spills his drivel over the airwaves every day. Now Moore is getting flack for a film? Those people are hippocrates because they probably all listen to Limbaugh.

I don't want to see the film, but I may just go buy a few tickets to support it.

They're pretty easy to pick.

Fahrenheit 45l is a term used long before Bradbury wrote the book. Since he's been a personal friend for more than 40 years, I could find out if this is just more right wing tabloid nonsense.