Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

Bobsal and Rex have both been creating new usernames on here lately. I guess they are embarrassed by what they post and don't want the real world to know how they really think.

How Republicans turn fewer votes into more legislative seats
http://on.msnbc.com/1zrOaOg

For all you Democrats still in the fetal position after Tuesday's election, this part may offer some comfort: Michigan Democrats got more votes for the U.S. House than Republicans did.

But, Republicans woke up Wednesday morning with nine seats, while Democrats won just five.

Understand gerrymandering in 20 seconds (ok, 29...)

Stating facts is not the same as whining.

We asked our resident political junkie, Zoe Clark, to explain gerrymandering.

In 20 seconds. She took a deep breath and went for it.

"The U.S. has a census every 10 years. It's part of the Constitution.

"And in part it's to help apportion the country's 435 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

"Gerrymandering is the idea of drawing those political maps of the 435 seats for political advantage.

"If you draw the maps, you try to make sure your voters are in the majority in each district. Or you lump together your opposing voters so that their votes just don't go as far."

Glenn Beck devoted a long rant last night to his contention that the U.S. Census Bureau shouldn't be counting what he blithely calls "illegal aliens" -- i.e., undocumented immigrants.

But his argument -- that we shouldn't be counting people who can't vote -- doesn't merely cut against the undocumented. It cuts against all immigrants -- who, by definition, are also already non-citizens.

Moreover, the Census Bureau isn't charged with accurately counting the number of citizens living within the United States -- it's charged with counting the entire population.

What Beck wants Census to do -- that is, to exclude non-citizens from its count -- is in direct violation of its charter, which is to count the population whole:


The Census Bureau does not ask about legal (migrant) status of respondents in any of its survey and census programs. As examples, in the decennial census, the American Community Survey, and Current Population Survey as there is no legislative mandate to collect this information. Given the success of Census 2000 in counting nearly every person residing in the United States, we expect that unauthorized migrants were included among people who indicated that the United States was their usual place of residence on the survey date. The foreign-born population includes naturalized U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, temporary migrants (e.g., foreign students), humanitarian migrants (e.g., refugees), and unauthorized migrants (people illegally present in the United States).

Beck would have the Census omit not just unauthorized migrants, but also lawful permanent residents, humanitarian migrants, and foreign-born residents here legally.

Of course, he's arguing for this because he believes counting the undocumented will give the eeeeevil SEIU more power in its quest for total global domination or something like that. You have to watch the video to get it all, and even then it never quite holds together, much less make sense

You speak of a mandate and yet there was no mandate for Obama's immigration action.

Only a legal presidential action made legal by the vote of a majority of the voting public.

A minimum of 11 million illegal immigrants in the country and you don't think a proper counting of voting citizens is required for proper representation?