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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:15 am
@coldjoint,
You are just the sort of person the Prez loves...
https://i2.wp.com/images.dailykos.com/images/263167/story_image/trump-snake-oil-salesman-toon.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:25 am
@firefly,
That is copy of an Obama cartoon. The Left has lies, no brains, and no originality. Which makes you a perfect fit.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:33 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
The Left has lies, no brains, and no originality.


Please provide evidence for your claim from a reliable/credible source?

The left gave us social security and Medicare. They gave us the 1964 Civil Rights Act. https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/civil-rights-act/immediate-impact.html

Quote:
The 1964 Election
In the 1964 presidential election President Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) ran against Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), the Republican candidate. Senator Richard Russell, Jr., (D-GA) warned Johnson that his strong support for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 “will not only cost you the South, it will cost you the election.” Johnson went on to win the presidency, in a landslide victory, by more than fifteen million votes. He captured ninety-four percent of the black vote. Goldwater won his native state of Arizona and five states in the Deep South.


What did the right give us? Donald Trump, the bigot, liar, wives cheater, scammer, and all around scum. Trump gave us a trade war with his tariffs, and he wants to spend tens of billions on a border wall that will not stop illegal immigration. Trump is simply a moron who is way over his head as the president of this country. It's a good thing judges are keeping watch to make sure Trump doesn't create laws that are antithetical to our Constitution.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:43 am
Making America Unemployed Again

Trump’s global trade war is escalating and could cost thousands of American jobs.

By Jamie Lincoln Kitman
Mr. Kitman is the New York bureau chief for Automobile magazine.
July 6, 2018

It used to be a refrain of the Republican faithful that the government shouldn’t be in the business of picking winners and losers where industry and technology are concerned.

As President Trump’s global trade war escalates, with the latest round of tariffs going into effect on Friday, his administration is doing just that. The new wrinkle is that it is no longer clear who is being set up to triumph or fail. Tariffs directed at products from one country — whether that’s steel from Canada and China or cars from Italy — are just as likely to affect American companies and hurt their workers.

That message came through loud and clear in recent days during the public comment period on the administration’s proposed tariffs on imported cars and parts. The global auto industry relies on supply chains that were built on the free movement of parts and goods. Suppliers, dealers and car manufacturers in the United States and other countries are petrified by the damage that the tariffs could do to their businesses.

General Motors, which warned that the tariffs could lead to job losses in the United States, said in its comments that the new levies could end up “isolating U.S. businesses like G.M. from the global market that helps to preserve and grow our strength here at home.”

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, a trade group for domestic and foreign automakers with operations in the United States, predicts that a 25 percent tariff on imported cars, the high end of what has been proposed, could increase the average price of a new imported vehicle by $5,800.

“Tariffs will lead to increased producer costs, increased producer costs will lead to increased vehicle costs, increased vehicle costs will lead to fewer sales and less tax receipts, fewer sales will lead to fewer jobs, and those fewer jobs will significantly impact many communities and families across the country,” the alliance warned in its June 27 comments to the Commerce Department.

One of America’s Big Three automakers, Fiat Chrysler, which operates 23 plants and employs 56,000 people in the United States, is an Italian-American company incorporated in the Netherlands with headquarters in Britain. It builds its strong-selling Jeep Renegade model in Italy, China and Brazil. The company stands to lose as much as $866 million in profit, according to one estimate, if a 25 percent tariff on cars from the European Union goes into effect.

Foreign carmakers with factories in America, including BMW and Volvo in South Carolina, Mercedes and Hyundai in Alabama, Subaru in Indiana, plus Toyota and Honda, which operate plants in several states, also stand to suffer, along with all of their suppliers. A study by the Peterson Institute found that 195,000 jobs will be lost if the tariffs are enacted and 624,000 lost if retaliatory tariffs follow.

Volvo, which recently opened a plant in South Carolina, said that jobs there depended on customers outside the United States. “Thus, half of the 4,000 direct jobs at the factory that we aim to create are related to exports, and if we cannot trade freely, those U.S. jobs may not be created at all,” Volvo said.

To be sure, this industry is quick to warn of job losses from policies it doesn’t like but is slow to reward workers when times are good. The auto industry has not gone out of its way to use its recent corporate tax breaks to benefit workers.

The prospect of tariff-induced job losses, however, is not just hypothetical. Harley-Davidson, the Wisconsin-based motorcycle maker, could be a bellwether.

Harley sales have been in decline in the United States for years. Its bikes are big, fat, noisy and technologically backward, and the company has
been too slow to make the lighter, more modern motorcycles that appeal to younger, more technically sophisticated American buyers. Japanese and European motorcycle makers have excelled at this.

Yet, ironically, sales for Harley-Davidson have been steady in Europe, the company’s second-biggest market, while dropping 8.5 percent in the United States in 2017. Those European sales were helping to support hundreds of workers in the United States, along with assembly plants in Australia, Brazil, India and Thailand.

Harley’s windfall earlier this year, courtesy of the G.O.P. tax cut, did not go to bolster American production or expand American hiring or raise wages, or to develop its electric offerings more quickly. Nor did the company use it to weather a potential trade war. Instead, the windfall went to stock buybacks soon after Harley announced plans to close its Kansas City, Mo., plant, despite pleas from its union to save the factory’s 800 jobs.

The president was conspicuously silent about those job cuts, but he has gone on a Twitter tirade against Harley for its plans for additional layoffs of American workers as a result of retaliatory tariffs from the European Union. Harley says it must ship more of its production offshore in order to remain profitable.

Nothing the motorcycle maker has done — including importing many key components from abroad — is different from the business practices of any other corporation, including its competitors, which the president claims he is now trying to lure to invest in the United States. One of Harley’s rivals, the Iowa-based Polaris, is also considering moving some production to Poland in response to the retaliatory European levies.

Tariffs are like a long train of boxcars; each one is filled with unintended consequences that can knock into the next with devastating consequences. The names on the factories may be foreign, but the workers who stand to lose their jobs are right here in America.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/opinion/trump-tariffs-harley-davidson-auto.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:46 am
@firefly,
Quote:
could cost thousands of American jobs.

Enough said. Anyway something bad can be said about Trump is going to be said. It does not mean it is going to happen.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:47 am
@cicerone imposter,

Quote:
Please provide evidence for your claim from a reliable/credible source?

How about your posts? That should do it.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 10:55 am
http://www.carbondaletimes.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/IO/20161214/NEWS/701249808/AR/0/AR-701249808.jpg&updated=201612141532&MaxW=800&maxH=800&noborder
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 12:13 pm
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/29/03/41DB4EC300000578-4649352-image-m-62_1498703254060.jpg
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 12:23 pm
In Trump’s Russia Summit, Putin Holds All the Cards
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/in-trumps-russia-summit-putin-holds-all-the-cards.html
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 01:47 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
At the same time, he is actively working to destabilize the European Union, encouraging key members to quit the organization and saying at a rally this week that the E.U. “was set up to take advantage of the United States, to attack our piggy bank” — an absolutely bonkers statement even if it were not based on an exaggeration of the U.S-E.U. trade deficit. Considering that Russia meddled in the Brexit

From your link in case you did not read it. The EU is destabilizing itself. I am sure Putin is glad to help. Migration issues will destroy it.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:09 pm
More Trump lies--from both Donald senior and junior.
,
He did not win a Russian collusion lawsuit filed by the DNC.
.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-trump-lawsuit-dnc-flawed-20180706-story.html
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:27 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
“It’s almost like it was a bs publicity stunt to begin with,” Donald Trump Jr. posted shortly after his dad’s tweet. “More enoise (sic) to cover up the DNC’s repeated failures and anti-American sentiment.”

Spot on, your link.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:28 pm
@firefly,
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaBDyyiKM1kAHuQ9_QyZ22IMOnEoxWMTkzQ3qK-daNu2NJZiZE
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:34 pm
@firefly,
How well do you think Killary would do?
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 02:43 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
“It’s almost like it was a bs publicity stunt to begin with,” Donald Trump Jr. posted shortly after his dad’s tweet. “More enoise (sic) to cover up the DNC’s repeated failures and anti-American sentiment.”


https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p8/MyDaytonDailyNews/2017/07/12/Images/lk071117dAPR.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 03:08 pm
@firefly,
Trump's lies are getting worse. Olivier Douliery / Pool via EPA file
Between when President Donald Trump assumed office in January 2017 and the end of April, the average number of public false or misleading statements he has made per day has been increasing. According to the Washington Post’s fact checkers on May 1, "for the president’s first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day... since we last updated this tally two months ago, the president has averaged about 9 claims a day."

This is a significant rise. Our calculations suggest that if the current escalation rate remains steady, by the end of his term the president could be making as many as 19 public false statements a day, on average.

A: It seems Trump supporters don't care or they are being duped. I think the majority doesn't care because they agree with his bigotry.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
they agree with his bigotry.

What bigotry? Why is his popularity rising among Hispanics? Are they bigots too?
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 03:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
What bigotry?

Trump can’t make America white again

by Eugene Robinson
July 5 2018

Racism is a feature of the Trump administration, not a bug. Like demagogues before him, President Trump and his aides consistently single out one group for scapegoating and persecution: nonwhite Hispanic immigrants.

Trump doesn’t much seem to like nonwhite newcomers from anywhere, in truth — remember how he once expressed a fond wish for more immigrants from Norway? — but he displays an especially vicious antipathy toward men, women and even children from Latin America. We have not seen such overt racism from a president since Woodrow Wilson imposed Jim Crow segregation in Washington and approvingly showed “The Birth of a Nation,” director D.W. Griffith’s epic celebration of the Ku Klux Klan, at the White House.

Trump encourages supporters to see the nation as beset by high levels of violent crime — and to blame the “animals” of the street gang MS-13. He is lying; crime rates nationwide are far lower than two or three decades ago, and some big cities are safer than they have been in a half-century. But Trump has to paint a dystopian panorama to justify the need to Make America Great Again.

MS-13 is, indeed, unspeakably violent. But it is small; law enforcement officials estimate the gang’s total U.S. membership at roughly 10,000, concentrated in a few metropolitan areas that have large populations of Central American immigrants — Los Angeles, New York and Washington. Trump never acknowledges that the gang was founded in the United States by immigrants from El Salvador and exported to Central America, where it took hold. He also neglects to mention that its members here, mostly teenagers, generally direct their violence at one another, not at outsiders.

Trump deliberately exaggerates the threat from MS-13 in order to justify his brutality toward Central American asylum seekers at the border. People should never be treated that way, but “animals” are a different story.

It is unbelievable that the U.S. government would separate more than 2,300 children from their parents for no good reason other than to demonstrate cruelty. It is shocking that our government would expect toddlers and infants to represent themselves at formal immigration hearings. It is incredible that our government, forced to grudgingly end the policy, would charge desperate parents hundreds or thousands of dollars to be reunited with their children. It is appalling that our government would refuse even to give a full and updated accounting of how many children still have not been returned. Yet all of this has been done — in our name.

Trump uses words such as “invading” and “infest” and “breeding” to describe Central American migrants who arrive at the border lawfully seeking asylum. I’ll believe this is neutral immigration policy when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents begin hunting down and locking up Norwegians who have overstayed their visas.

Said Norwegians, if anyone bothered to look for them, might well be taking jobs away from American workers or taking advantage of social-welfare programs or boosting crime rates. There is no evidence that asylum seekers are doing any of these things.

Trump’s policies flow from a worldview that he has never tried to hide. To describe Trump and aides such as Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior policy adviser Stephen Miller as “anti-immigration” tells only part of the story. They adopt the stance of racial and cultural warriors, “defending” the United States against brown-skinned, Spanish-speaking hordes “invading” from the south.

Trump has proposed not just building a wall along the border with Mexico to halt the flow of undocumented migrants but also changing the system of legal immigration so that it no longer promotes family unification. He calls his aim a “merit-based” system, but Miller has specified that the administration wants to produce “more assimilation.”

Yet there is no evidence that immigrants from Latin America fail to assimilate in any way except one: They do not come to look like Trump’s mental image of “American,” which is basically the same as his mental image of “Norwegian.”

This is a story as old as the nation. German, Irish, Polish, Italian and other immigrant groups were once seen as irredeemably foreign and incapable of assimilating. The ethnic and racial mix of the country has changed before and is changing now.

Hispanics are by far the biggest minority group in the country, making up nearly 18 percent of the population; by 2060, the Census Bureau estimates, that share will rise to nearly 29 percent . Trump is punishing Central American mothers and babies because, try as he might, he can’t Make America White Again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/try-as-he-might-trump-cant-make-america-white-again/2018/07/05/0634e02e-8088-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html?utm_term=.16449bda9346
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 04:03 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Trump can’t make America white again

Go away, that is useless propaganda. But while you are here, are Hispanics bigots? I never got an answer.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2018 04:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Trump's lies are getting worse.

These lies are just from his rally last night. Rolling Eyes
Quote:

Fact Check of the Day

18 Inaccurate Claims From Trump’s Montana Rally

President Trump distorted the facts on NATO military spending, the size of the White House staff and participation in the food stamp program, among other assertions.

By Linda Qiu
July 6, 2018

what was said

“But I will tell you, the secretary general, Stoltenberg, is Trump’s biggest fan. He says, ‘Those NATO nations are going like this: less money, less money. Why not? And when you started talking, it went like a rocket ship.’”

— President Trump, speaking at a campaign rally in Great Falls, Mont., on Thursday

the facts

This is exaggerated.

It’s unclear what Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of NATO, has said to Mr. Trump. But the notion that Mr. Trump single-handedly and drastically reversed military spending by members is inaccurate.

As The New York Times has previously explained, each of NATO’s 29 members has pledged to spend at least 2 percent of its gross domestic product on its own defense each year. Just four countries — the United States, Britain, Greece and Estonia — met that goal in 2017, according to NATO. (Poland reached 1.99 percent.)

Average spending by members other than the United States has generally been declining since the end of the Cold War, dipping to 1.4 percent of G.D.P. in 2014 and 2015 before increasing to 1.42 percent in 2016 and 1.45 percent in 2017.

So NATO members began to spend more on their militaries before Mr. Trump took office. It’s possible that Mr. Trump’s dedication to the issue has spurred NATO members to continue to do so, but they are also motivated by Russia’s aggressive actions, experts have previously told The Times.

what was said

“They make the sources up. They don’t exist in many cases. Any time you say — you know, I saw one of them said ‘15 anonymous sources’ — I don’t have 15 people in the White — I mean, forget it.”

the facts

False.

As he accused news outlets of quoting nonexistent sources, Mr. Trump cut himself off before he could finish his incorrect claim that the White House employs fewer than 15 people.

The “White House” can broadly refer to the Executive Office of the President, which includes the Office of Management and Budget, the National Security Council, the Council of Economic Advisers and the Office of the United States Trade Representative, among other domestic policy arms and support staff. Mr. Trump’s budget for the 2019 fiscal year estimated that more than 1,800 full-time employees work for these offices.

The term can also refer specifically to the White House Office, which is one of the oldest sub-agencies of the executive office and where many of the president’s personal aides work. It alone employs 374 people, according to its latest report to Congress on salaries, which was dated June 29.

what was said

“Since the election, we have lifted three million people off of food stamps.”

the facts

This requires context.

Participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program did decline to 40.1 million people in March 2018 from 43.2 million in November 2016, according to the most recent data from the Agriculture Department.

Mr. Trump, of course, was not yet president in November 2016. From February 2017, his first full month in office, to this March, nearly 2.2 million fewer people participated in SNAP.

It’s also worth noting that participation has been declining in recent years as the economy improves from the financial recession. For example, in the year before Mr. Trump became president, SNAP enrollment declined by more than 2.4 million from December 2015 to January 2017.

OTHER CLAIMS

Mr. Trump also repeated more than a dozen false or misleading claims that The Times has previously debunked:

•He falsely claimed that Democrats “want open borders” (most have voted to improve border security).

•He exaggerated the United States’ trade deficit with the European Union as $151 billion (it’s $101 billion).

•He falsely said the United States was “exporting energy for the first time” (it has been doing so for decades).

•He misleadingly accused President Barack Obama of paying Iran $1.8 billion in cash to release hostages (the money was a payment related to a decades-long dispute).

•He misleadingly accused President Bill Clinton of giving “billions and billions” to North Korea and getting “nothing” (the amount, in energy aid, was far less, and the 1994 nuclear agreement did produce some results).

•He falsely claimed to be the first Republican presidential candidate to win Wisconsin “since Dwight Eisenhower in 1952” (Ronald Reagan and Richard M. Nixon both won Wisconsin).

•He exaggerated the number of MS-13 members who have been deported as being in the “thousands” (this is not possible).

•He hyperbolically said “getting military funding from these Democrats is almost impossible” (most Democrats voted for the latest military spending bill).

•He misleadingly claimed “we are already building the wall” (construction on the wall has not begun).

•He falsely said wages were rising “for the first time in 18 years” (they’ve
been rising for years).

•He falsely claimed that the tax cuts he signed into law in December were “the biggest in American history” (they rank 12th).

•He claimed to have “saved family farms” by raising the threshold for the estate tax (the tax previously affected around 80 family farms and small businesses).

•He falsely claimed “millions” are already signing up for association health care plans (they will not be available until at least Sept. 1).

•He said the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines will produce 48,000 jobs (all but 75 will be temporary jobs).

•He exaggerated the United States’ trade deficit with China as $507 billion (it’s $336 billion).

Sources: NATO, the White House, the president’s budget for FY2019, the Agriculture Department, The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/us/politics/fact-check-trump-montana.html
 

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