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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 09:39 am
@TheCobbler,
Trump's bigotry goes back several decades when he didn't rent to blacks. He paid for a full page ad in the New York newspaper to execute five innocent black kids. We all know what he said about Mexicans and Muslims. Textbook.
Trump's approval rating now sits at 38%. He's a sad joke.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 09:47 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
"Empathy is a leftist tactic that is overplayed"

Do you even listen to yourself any more?

Considering how heavy you guys weigh "empathy", this is a true statement. Can you prove that it is not? Leftist are famous for using emotions as the major push behind their agenda. The law doesn't matter, rules don't matter, emotions and empathy are what count.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 10:11 am
@Baldimo,
Prove your statement with facts, not your emotion.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 11:29 am
@cicerone imposter,
Illegal immigration, health care, social welfare programs are a few examples where emotion plays a heavy part in the liberal mind. Most arguments are not logical arguments, they are emotional ones. "Do you want dead kids? Do you want dead old people?" Those are emotional pleas and those are the ones the liberals use the most. Look at a majority of the anti-gun arguments, they come from emotion and not logical thought, Sandy Hook ring a bell?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 12:15 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
Illegal immigration, health care, social welfare programs are a few examples where emotion plays a heavy part in the liberal mind.
You might be correct - for the USA. Here, it is thought to be part of our Christian heritage.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 12:22 pm
@Baldimo,
Do you mean to claim that rights don't use emotion? ROTF
CLAIM: The right don't have emotions.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 12:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Do you mean to claim that rights don't use emotion? ROTF
CLAIM: The right don't have emotions.

Typical. When you can't talk about the subject you move on to crap like this. Totally emotional with no logic in site.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 12:33 pm
@Baldimo,
I agree: Trump doesn't have emotion when it comes to low income Americans. He's going to cut $1.7 trillion for low income Americans including cuts in Medicare to give bigger tax cuts to the rich.
Many poor people will die.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/07/the-massive-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-inside-the-gop-health-care-plan/
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 01:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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I agree: Trump doesn't have emotion when it comes to low income Americans. He's going to cut $1.7 trillion for low income Americans including cuts in Medicare to give bigger tax cuts to the rich.
Many poor people will die.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/07/the-massive-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-inside-the-gop-health-care-plan/

Thank you for proving my point.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 05:07 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
Considering how heavy you guys weigh "empathy", this is a true statement. Can you prove that it is not? Leftist are famous for using emotions as the major push behind their agenda. The law doesn't matter, rules don't matter, emotions and empathy are what count.


This is chronic bullshit on so many levels I almost don't know where to start.

Should I point out that empathy is actually an asset - it's why there are modern humans and technology?

Should I ask you to cite me a peer reviewed that offers any proof that the left appeals to emotions any more than the right does?

Should I highlight the countless interviews of Trump supporters saying "Oh he said that stuff but he doesn't mean it - I can feel that he's the right guy for America'?

Keep on worshipping your god; anger, the simplest of emotions.

NSFW (view)
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 22 May, 2017 08:01 pm
@hingehead,
You're right, it's exactly like playing chess with a pigeon.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2017 06:51 am
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2017 11:09 am
@hingehead,
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This is chronic bullshit on so many levels I almost don't know where to start.

Prove me wrong then. I don't think you can do it. I've already provided my examples of subjects where the left uses empathy as a weapon, can you disprove those examples?

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Should I point out that empathy is actually an asset - it's why there are modern humans and technology?

I don't disagree. You seem to think I'm against empathy, which I'm not. Empathy can be a valuable tool and I encourage it, but there is a limit to where empathy can become dangerous and blind people to others true intentions. The push to being a higher level of Socialism to the US is a perfect example, it is primarily driven by emotion and anger at the wealthy.

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Should I ask you to cite me a peer reviewed that offers any proof that the left appeals to emotions any more than the right does?

I think watching the news here in the US proof enough. As was talked about earlier, the current "Safe Space" fascist movement making it's way through US Universities and the demand for "Segregated" classrooms and dorms is another appeal to empathy for groups that have no real cause for alarm. No facts to back their claims of racist at the Universities, just being around white people is enough to harm their sensibilities and give them fear. This is taking place at some of the biggest schools in the US.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25748/

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Should I highlight the countless interviews of Trump supporters saying "Oh he said that stuff but he doesn't mean it - I can feel that he's the right guy for America'?

You could do that, but I haven't brought Trump up in this discussion. Why would you?
Having a feeling about a person to vote for is different than saying we need to tax something so that someone else can have it, and if you disagree, then you lack empathy for your fellow man and you are garbage... This is the exact argument that has been used here on A2K as well as in the media to push the lefts agenda.

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Keep on worshipping your god; anger, the simplest of emotions.

See another emotional argument to be used against me, My "God" is the God of Anger. Pure emotion again to be used as a weapon.
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 23 May, 2017 05:35 pm
@Baldimo,
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Empathy can be a valuable tool

You expose your soul with such asides.
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u could do that, but I haven't brought Trump up in this discussion. Why would you?

BECAUSE YOU SAID THE LEFT WAS OVERUSING EMOTION AND I WAS ARGUING THAT THE LEFT USES IT NO MORE THAN THE RIGHT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

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The push to being a higher level of Socialism to the US is a perfect example, it is primarily driven by emotion and anger at the wealthy.


Your analytical ability is shall0w.

You don't think that educated Americans look at other developed nations and think "We're being screwed."?

On Education
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/pisa-2012-results-overview%20graph%201_larger.jpg
Source

On Health:
Maternal Mortality Rates are rising in the USA, against the global trend
Highest healthcare expenditure in the world, but ranks 37th for life expectancy
Source

On Income Inequality:
The US scores significantly lower than most other developed nations. With a Gini coefficient that sits it the middle of African nations.
Source

The tax avoidance of multinationals shifting the tax burden to the (often shrinking) middle classes
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/04/which-countries-are-worst-affected-by-tax-avoidance/

Americans don't hate the rich at all, in fact I think John Steinbeck had it right
https://68.media.tumblr.com/90c08c20e095797ab75e83c2f2cbad67/tumblr_nows3lgsVZ1slixf5o1_500.jpg

I love that your concern over "fascist movement" is limited to universities - but not Russian meddling in elections, or a White House openly attacking the institutions of a democracy.

OMFG - I just followed the ONE link you posted to back up your bullshit and it's an openly rightwing student paper.

You are truly... unimpressive, at an intellectual level.

I'm done with you - keep changing your arguments, ignoring where you've been called out, and 'judiciously' editing posts.

You ain't worth the brain power.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2017 01:56 pm
@hingehead,
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You expose your soul with such asides.

What the difference between a valuable tool and calling it an asset? No difference at all.

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BECAUSE YOU SAID THE LEFT WAS OVERUSING EMOTION AND I WAS ARGUING THAT THE LEFT USES IT NO MORE THAN THE RIGHT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

No need to shout, you are getting emotional. Sure it makes sense if you want to veer the subject to Trump.

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Your analytical ability is shall0w.
You don't think that educated Americans look at other developed nations and think "We're being screwed."?

"Educated Americans"? I'm sure they do, but the same "Educated Venezuelans" thought the same thing prior to Chavez taking power and look how that country turned out.

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On Education

Education in the US is a problem and the only thing I can point out is that our education system has been in the hands of the liberal intellectual eliete and teachers unions for decades. What has it brought us? Not a better education system that's for sure. Our system doesn't concentrate on the actual education issues, they waste money on BS. The problem isn't money, we spend just as much if not more money on education then other nations who rank higher than we do. It's the system of education we use and how it is administered and how those education dollars are spent. The US education system would be much better off without the interference of the teachers unions. When it is more important to strike during the school year than it is to educate children, you know where the problem lies.http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/apr/21/jeb-bush/does-united-states-spend-more-student-most-countri/

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On Health:

You will notice that the maternal mortality rate pointed to things outside of child birth that lead to this rate. Heart attacks, obesity and diabetes are the leading causes and a majority of those issues are self inflected. You might call me out on my empathy and that's fine. People make personal choices and here in the states, people do not take care of themselves. My ex-wife used to eat a whole bag of chocolate chocolatechip cookies when she was pregnant, she put on a lot of weight and it was her fault. Have you ever tried to tell a pregnante woman what she can and can't eat? It's not a smart move.

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On Income Inequality:

I love how you leftists always tie "Income Inequality" to how much the rich pay in taxes. This is a direct link to the lefts love of socialism and emotions over logic. It's always the rich persons fault someone is poor, and their life choices never play a roll on where they end up...
From a US perspective, we would have less corporate tax avoidance if the corporate taxes rates were lower and they removed writes off's to compensate for the lower tax rate, this would lead to higher take in of taxes.

On Steinbeck... It wasn't Steinbeck who made that quote, it was Ronald Wright. (I looked it up) So much for thinking you are so smart. Do you often talk in meme's?

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I love that your concern over "fascist movement" is limited to universities -

It is indeed a concern, the Universities are filled with children who a majority of which have never lived a day of real life, they know nothing about paying bills like a real adult does, they live in a bubble.

I'm sure you are aware of the Brown Shirts? Where do you think they got their start? Today's college fascists are nothing more but Hilter Youth in training.

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but not Russian meddling in elections,

Meddling in elections? You mean hacking the emails of the DNC and publishing their dirty laundry? It really doesn't bother me, they should have had better security and Podesta shouldn't have fallen for an email scam a 10 year old would know about, amateur hour for the DNC. The Russians tried to hack the GOP but failed because the GOP keeps their internet security updated. The only people who really feel like the Russians had an impact on our election are those who were Hillary supporters. Hell you aren't even American, why do you care? Were you betting on Hillary?

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or a White House openly attacking the institutions of a democracy.

He is? Which institutions of democracy would those be? The Press?

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You are truly... unimpressive, at an intellectual level.

Are me feelings suppose to be hurt? Your gauge of my intelligence doesn't mean anything to me and I hold your opinion of me about as high as I do my ex-wifes.

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I'm done with you - keep changing your arguments, ignoring where you've been called out, and 'judiciously' editing posts.

You are talking **** and can't even prove what you said. What stance did I change on this thread and post did I edit or as you claim "judiciously" edit? Prove it or drop it. I haven't edited anything and all posts are as they were made. This is the same sort of game that Izzy plays when he can't keep up, are you better than Izzy?

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2017 02:08 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
I'm sure you are aware of the Brown Shirts? Where do you think they got their start? Today's college fascists are nothing more but Hilter Youth in training.
The Hitlerjugend ("Hitler Youth") was the sole official youth organisation in Germany and compulsory, if you wanted to finish Gymnasium (High school).
The SA was disempowered after 1934. They got their start in the early 1920's as a protection troop for Nazi rallies and assemblies with the main pupose of fighting against the left (Communists, Socialists and Social Democrats.)
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2017 02:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The only thing missing for our modern day facsists is the gym class... Their only point today is to disrupt events they don't agree with and to promote violence against those very same people. Look at how Antifi goes about their "protests".

Yes I know it is Antifa, but they don't deserve the respect of me getting their name right.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2017 06:50 pm
Dear Donald J. Trump: Former Mexican President Vicente Fox Quesada has an important message for you.
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/470206149990607/
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2017 07:26 pm
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