Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

We've got lives, and even our own minds and opinions. Too bad you either don't, or are just too cowardly to express it.

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And that is accurate reporting. Since the superdelegate portion of the vote does not vote until the convention in late July, the superdelegates can change who they are going to vote for, but nobody expects that to happen.

The whole "wait until the convention" thing is probably a thinly masked way of saying, "What if Hillary gets indicted by the convention-will the superdelegates who said they would vote for her do so then?" The FBI said a few weeks ago that they will make a decision in a few months, so the decision to indict or not indict might well occur before the convention.

That's what the Sanders campaign is hinting at, (hoping for?).

They also reported a lot of people who said they'd vote for her because she wasn't as bad as Trump, the least worse option.

That also sounds about right. The two parties have hammered each other so much with "opposition research" and such that the public is disenchanted with both sides and are looking for new people. The new person who arrived is Trump, and his probable opponent has been hammered by the GOP since 1992, so she carries "baggage", fairly or unfairly. Most polls at this point, (which doesn't mean that much), has Hillary ahead by four or five points.

Before we got him mad, wish I could have asked him how any Asians he knows is voting. Apparently those who keep with demographical voting patterns so to speak, can't really get a lead on it.

Watching the Asian-American vote in California

I will have absolutely no trouble at all whatsoever supporting and voting for Hillary Clinton.

There: all better.

Your media doesn't have the whole story. They are counting super delegates when according to DNC rules they can't commit until the front runner loses the first round. Hillary does not have the 59% or better count need to avoid a first round.

Its almost parliamentary. Except for those freaking super delegates.

Simple reform:
A. No super delegates.
B. No closed primaries.
C. No Caucuses.
D. Proportional delegates for all states based on electoral votes.

And yes. Keep the Electoral Collage. It may be the last thing that will keep Trump out of the White House if partisans of Hillary and Bernie don't start getting back to civility.

Very good. Want a cookie?

Simple reform you listed -
A. No super delegates. Check. I don't like anti-mob rule stuff, but I also get it can be on the wise side every so often. I'd rather have it go to court than superdelegates. I think, given the earlier go around.
B. No closed primaries. Not a check. Too much room for players.
C. No Caucuses. Check.
D. Proportional delegates for all states based on electoral votes. Check.

I would also like more rotation of who gets to have the first primary. The system so far is primative to me.

Rotation works for me particularly when there are state and local elections tied to the primary ballot - as it was when I voted not only in the primary but voted for local, state, and county issues, too.

E. Rotation of which state gets to have the first primary.

But we're keeping open primaries in my simple reform. Why do small i independents get no say in the choice of only two candidates? Showing up at the poll on election day and asking for one party or anothers ticket works for me if they were registered as small "i" independent.

Denver group calls for GOP chairwoman’s resignation for posting racist meme

The regional NAACP chapter held a press conference asking for a formal apology and resignation of Delta County’s Republican party chairwoman

By Claire Cleveland | [email protected]
June 7, 2016 | UPDATED: 16 hours ago


The regional chapter of the NAACP called for the resignation of the Delta County Republican Party chairwoman Tuesday, nearly two weeks after she posted a racist meme about President Barack Obama on Facebook.

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Later Tuesday, Sorenson released a written apology, which was reported first by Earnest Lee Luning at the Colorado Statesman. “I confess to ‘liking’ a tired old Facebook meme, and I apologize for my bad judgment,” the apology read. “I admit to saying to the blogger that; “I don’t care if you’re offended,” however I do care very much if anyone else was offended. Please forgive me for being insensitive and not thinking of others in the heat of the moment.”

“This is not a small issue for us,” said Reginald Holmes, vice president of social justice at the ministerial alliance. “She may be from a small town, but this is not a small issue for us. It represents something about the Republican Party, it represents something about all of us if we sit idly by and allow this kind of racism to continue from Colorado.”

The call for action comes after Sorenson posted a meme depicting a scene from the 1951 comedy “Bedtime for Bonzo,” which showed late President Ronald Reagan bottle-feeding a chimp, along with the words “I’ll be damned. … Reagan used to babysit Obama!”

Del Phillips, president of the Greater Metro Denver Ministerial Alliance, speaks at a news conference Tuesday. Members of the Greater Metro Denver Ministerial Alliance responded to the Delta County Republican Party chairwoman, Linda Sorenson, who “liked” a meme on Facebook comparing President Barack Obama to a monkey.


Sorenson also recently made headlines when she urged people to vote for U.S. Senate candidate Daryl Glenn, who is African-American. However, officials of state and local parties, including their leaders, are not allowed to endorse one primary candidate over another.

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The meme, as well as Sorenson’s Facebook page, have been removed. Liberal blogger Jason Salzman, who runs BigMedia.org, reported the Facebook post on May 25. Sorenson told Salzman at the time: “I really don’t care if people are offended by it. Un-friend me. Stop looking at me on Facebook.”

At the news conference, representatives from the community, including Sondra Young, president of the NAACP Denver branch, the Rev. Tammy Garrett-Williams, NAACP state committee representative, and senior leaders of the ministerial alliance spoke against Sorenson and Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

“We cannot stand by and allow the political leaders in America to continue to reflectively slide back into the ugly racist politics that we have fought for decades to escape,” Garrett-Williams said. “We are asking for Linda Sorenson’s immediate, immediate resignation as Delta County’s Republican Party chairwoman.”

Dump the G.O.P. for a Grand New Party

If a party could declare moral bankruptcy, today’s Republican Party would be in Chapter 11.

This party needs to just shut itself down and start over — now. Seriously, someone please start a New Republican Party!

America needs a healthy two-party system. America needs a healthy center-right party to ensure that the Democrats remain a healthy center-left party. America needs a center-right party ready to offer market-based solutions to issues like climate change. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense gun laws. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense fiscal policy. America needs a center-right party to support both free trade and aid to workers impacted by it. America needs a center-right party that appreciates how much more complicated foreign policy is today, when you have to manage weak and collapsing nations, not just muscle strong ones.

But this Republican Party is none of those things. Today’s G.O.P. is to governing what Trump University is to education — an ethically challenged enterprise that enriches and perpetuates itself by shedding all pretense of standing for real principles, or a truly relevant value proposition, and instead plays on the ignorance and fears of the public.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/08/opinion/dump-the-gop-for-a-grand-new-party.html

Only ONE Candidate Is Asking Superdelegates to Game the Election: Bernie Sanders
http://bluenationreview.com/only-bernie-is-asking-superdelegates-to-game-the-election-for-them/

The end of the Bernie headache is near. I bet after this next meeting with Obama, he starts taking on a more conciliatory tone. And not a second too soon.

I am betting there is going to be a list of demand on one side and conceding on the other side. Obama being the one who concedes to get him to fold up his tent. But what in the world is Bernie going to tell all those mad Bernieorbust supporters who feel as though they have been cheated out of an election?

If they can't be reasoned with any better than their representatives here, it doesn't matter what he tells them.

Heard an interesting interview with a representative of Black Men for Bernie on the radio last night. He said they were pretty much all independents.

If Mr. Sanders is conciliatory toward Mrs. Clinton, or accepts a spot on her ticket or (a big list of stuff), they plan to start a third party since that's what they really wanted from him. They wanted him to turn the Democratic party into a different party, not to lead the Democratic party. mmmm ok.

They have no intention of listening to him - they want him to listen to them in terms of his future plans. mmmm ok.

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One of the interesting things was that he really thought they could be part of the Democratic convention. Apparently, he hadn't been to one in the past and didn't realize people need to be delegates to participate/vote. The guy seemed shocked when the interviewer pointed out he couldn't just show up and vote. He seemed to think anyone who voted in the primaries could vote at the convention. Plans to influence Bernie's plan may be changing.

the Republicans may be messing things up on their own (beyond the selection of Mr. Trump)

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-megadonors-koch-222825

While acknowledging that Mr. Sanders is probably too old to successfully found a third party, this is exactly what torpedoed Ross Perot's plans to found a third party. He wanted a cadre of workers and supporters who did as they were told, while they thought they could control and should control the Reform Party. It took a long time for that party to die, but here there isn't even a third party yet, and there is already a divide between the presumptive leader and the rank and file.

If Bernie were the nominee do you believe the same dynamic would hold true. With the conservative machine trumpeting socialist=communist for the next 8 months do you think it wouldent take its toll. And with his temperament he would lose it and blow the whole thing. Even though no one has leaned on him yet he has been whining about people picking on him. How do you think that will work nationally?