Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

Clinton needs to get off the constant womens issue debate. As a woman, even I am tired of it. She is turning off men left and right. They are scared they will be forgotten. Obama was smarter, he didnt drone on and on about black rights. He knew that would not win majorities. Thats why Jackson and Sharpton failed. She needs to lay off the womens issues debates. Most men dont give a flying fart about that.

Men like my husband...he works hard, takes care of his family, and Clinton just doesnt seem to speak for him. Even I feel that. Neither does Bernie though. But definately not Trump.

I really don't recall Hillary being especially repetitive about "women's issues". The only time I see her emphasizing so-called women's rights are when she's doing her standard reply to Trump accusing her of "playing the woman card". It's a ridiculous accusation. I'm not that crazy about her response, either. But I don't think she's been harping on it especially.

I've also heard accusations from Faux noise and other people mad at Hillary accusing her of saying or suggesting "vote for me because I'm a woman". And also people setting up a straw man argument that goes "I'm not voting for someone just because she has a vagina!" These, too are specious.

I agree to the extent she does not say stuff like "it is time to vote for a woman." But she does bring up women's issues and rightfully so in my opinion as they under attack all over republican run states.

My husband can't stand Hillary either, but if you asked him, he couldn't really tell you why, she just gets on his nerves and that's that I guess. On the other hand to get aggravated, all I have to do is look out my door at the Trump sign of who I thought previously were normal people... I couldn't really see the sign so I asked him, he told me straight out, you don't want to know. Last time my husband voted for Bush. Every time we got in argument over it, he would just say to me, "why did you vote for him?" knowing full well I wouldn't have dreamed of voting for him in a million years; I would just see red, he would get such a kick out of it. I hope we won't be having similar conversations. The things you don't know when you are 13...(it was when I first met him.)

It's sort of an interesting phenomenon, that. I've seen it several times, dating back to when she was running for the Senate. I'd ask someone with a clear, almost visceral hatred of Hillary what it is that they don't like, and they'd say something like, "I just can't stand her!"

When otherwise reasonable people give me an answer like that, I can't help but draw conclusions about them that aren't really flattering.

Yes, I try very hard to not think or I refuse to believe its an instinctual suspicion of women in power, but...if I dive into my own mind...I wonder. Is it just a learned thing from years of acceptance of the status quo or is it trully her personally? I cant help but defer to her lifetime of public service and she deserves that respect. What has Trump ever done for the good of the country? What public service has he ever performed? In all his success, who has been served in the end. Just him. So the option of who to vote for is clear to me. Shes spent her entire life fighting for something or another, and hes spent his life fighting for nothing excpet his own pocketbook.

BUSTED: Trump-loving comment trolls pose as Sanders and Clinton supporters to divide Democrats
Source: Raw Story

BUSTED: Trump-loving comment trolls pose as Sanders and Clinton supporters to divide Democrats
Bethania Palma Markus
21 May 2016 at 19:48 ET

An Internet troll who claims to have found deep divisions among factions of the Left on Twitter laid out a plan Saturday for fellow Donald Trump supporters to exploit those fissures.

Posting on the sometimes-dubious message board 4chan, the anonymous poster wrote a post entitled, “Let’s troll Bernie and Hillary supporters systematically,” where the writer says he/she posed as a Democratic voter and trolled supporters of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in an effort to deepen divisions and help Trump secure a victory in November.

“We need to take advantage of this. This is Trump’s gift,” the 4chan troll wrote. “If we’re serious about a Trump presidency we need to start infiltrating their conversations in order to sow more divison (sic). I’m talking systematic and long-term /mischief/, not just a hew minutes trolling dumbass SJW’s. Look at the chaos and damage I was able to make yesterday, just one person, with no real rudeness in my replies. Imagine that writ large: My account is @realJohnMilIer.”

“SJW” stands for “social justice warrior.” The Twitter account for “real John Miller” indeed seems to show activity celebrating divisions among Clinton and Sanders supporters.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/busted-trump-loving-comment-trolls-pose-as-sanders-and-clinton-supporters-to-divide-democrats/

"My entire life, I've been told to fear you in one way or another. I've been told to cover my body as to not distract you in school, to cover my body to help avoid unwanted advances or comments, to cover my body as to not tempt you to sexually assault me, to reject your unwanted advances politely as to not anger you. I've been taught to never walk alone at night, to hold my keys in my fist while walking in parking lots, to check the backseat of my car, to not drink too much because you might take advantage of me. I've been told what I should and shouldn't do with my body as to not jeopardize my relationships with you.

I've been warned not to emasculate you, to let "boys be boys", to protect your fragile ego and to not tread on your even more fragile masculinity. I've been taught to keep my emotions in check, to let you be the unit of measure for how much emotion is appropriate and to adjust my emotions accordingly. I've been taught that you're allowed to categorize women into mothers/sisters/girlfriends/wives/daughters but any woman outside of your protected categories is fair game.

So to those of you who think you're being helpful by "protecting" me and my fellow women, you're like a shark sitting in the Lifeguard chair. I wasn't uncomfortable until you showed up at the pool and the only potential predator I see is you.

Your mothers, sisters, girlfriends, wives and daughters don't need you to walk them to the bathroom for safety. Your fathers, brothers, friends and sons need to walk themselves away from their own double standards. Women are sexually harassed and sexually assaulted on school campuses, on the street, at their jobs, on the Internet, in their own homes, in ANY public place. And it has been excused or ignored for so long because of what you and I are taught from the first years of our interactions with each other: You, as a male, are not accountable for your own actions. It's MY responsibility, as a female, to not "provoke" you. But then you get to Knight-In-Shining-Armor your way through life for those in your protected categories and I am expected to applaud you. Why the outrage now over bathrooms? Why aren't you outraged every single day?"


more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/19/1528469/-Dear-creepy-heterosexual-men-guarding-our-bathrooms

Nancy Pelosi Defends Bernie Sanders Amid Suggestions He's Damaging the Party

As party leaders call for Sanders' exit, the House minority leader says he's awakening an interest in the democratic process.
By Elizabeth Preza / AlterNet
May 20, 2016



House minority leader Nancy Pelosi defended Bernie Sanders, calling the presidential candidate “a positive force in the Democratic Party.”

"He has awakened in some people an interest in the political process that wasn't there,” Pelosi said during a press briefing Friday. “He has encouraged young people to channel their interest in public service and community leadership into a political place, because this is where decisions are made that'll affect their future and their lives.”

“And I think that's positive,” Pelosi added.
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The approval of Rep. Pelosi, who represents California's 12th district, comes as party leaders and the Clinton campaign grow increasingly frustrated with the extended primary contest between Sanders and Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Some Clinton supporters feel Sanders is contributing to a negative perception of their candidate, as she faces heat from progressives as well as the Republican frontrunner Donald Trump.

One Clinton ally told the Hill the Sanders-Clinton face off is a “worst-case scenario.”

“Unfortunately, [Sanders] is choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally, who spoke under the condition of anonymity, told the Hill. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt, and he not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party but he's currently doing it.”

Sanders continues to push forward in the race for the Democratic nomination, despite trailing Clinton in pledged delegates. Still, the Vermont senator—who has won 18 of the 41 states that have held primary contests—insists he is the right candidate to take on Trump in the general election.

“There are a lot of people out there, many of the pundits and politicians, they say, Bernie Sanders should drop out," Sanders said Tuesday at a campaign rally in California, shortly after defeating Clinton in Oregon. “The people of California should have the right to determine who the next president will be.”

“We are in till the last ballot is cast," Sanders promised.

In an interview Thursday, Clinton maintained she would be the party nominee, telling CNN’s Chris Cuomo there's “no way I won’t be.”

“[Sanders] said the other day that he'll do everything possible to defeat Donald Trump,” Clinton said, in an obvious reminder to Sanders. “He said he'd work seven days a week. I take him at his word. I think the threat that Donald Trump poses is so dramatic to our country, to our democracy and our economy that I certainly expect Sen. Sanders to do what he said he would.”

But Pelosi, who has declined to endorse either candidate, said she’s encouraged by the enthusiasm generated by the Sanders campaign.

"The exuberance of our members is always something wonderful to behold," Pelosi said. "And at some point, to channel."

Elizabeth Preza is an AlterNet staff writer focusing on politics, media and cultural criticism. Follow her on Twitter @lizacisms.

He is damaging the party, the longer he stays in getting his thinly veiled digs in, the higher Trumps ratings go. Not good for the progressives platform or the issues he has campaigned on. The leaders of the democrat party are being too nice to him, he needs to step down quickly in order to consolidate the party to fight Trump.

Bernie Sanders digs in

Yeah but he's kind of like quicksand right now - best left to dry up on his own because any attempt to confront him gets you sucked into the accusation loop of being unfair and persecuting him and his movement. I'm content to let them rant and just hope enough of them retain enough stability to vote for Hillary over Trump.

A lot of people didn't get Carter. Michael Caine did.

Well, I'm not outraged, but having separate bathrooms for men and women is absolutely discrimination based on gender and absolutely legitimate. There is nothing wrong with discriminating between things that actually different. The only relevant question is who is a man and who is a woman. Certainly the people who wrote the Constitution had no intention of allowing men in ladies' rooms, or women in men's rooms, or of forcing people to have only unisex bathrooms.

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Twelve members who part of the delegates to the constitutional convention owned or managed slave operated plantations. It is not as though the framers were men of forward thinking views we should be looking at as examples for issues relevant today.



The 55 delegates who attended the Constitutional Convention

We might care, however, what they meant by the words in the Constitution when we purport to be deciding court cases based on it.

do you think they had gendered washrooms at that time?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/04/11/sex_segregated_public_restrooms_an_outdated_relic_of_victorian_paternalism.html

http://wiki.ubc.ca/Gender_Separated_Bathrooms#History_of_Gender_Separated_Bathrooms

into the early 1980's, I had the joy of experiencing non-gendered multi-seat outhouses when I was doing environmental assessment work in farm country

I don't mind non-gendered washrooms / showers / toilets as they were found in Ann Arbor in the 1970's, but no thanks to multi-seat outhouses

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not sure why anyone is making any kind of fuss about unisex/non-gendered washrooms/bathrooms

there really can't be more of a silly first world problem

We can care, but we don't have to base on our lives on what the framers might have thought of genderless bathrooms when they used chamber pots back then. On some things, I just think the constitution is outdated as shocking as that might be to say. Maybe that is why we have amendments to address issues which were not around or evolved as much as they are today.

Besides the 2nd Amendment, what else do you think should be changed?

Don't think the framers really card all that much and would never gotten to that level.

What liberals do not understand is that the Framers got it 100% correct every time and that which is not outlined in the Constitution is left to the States or the Legislature to decide.

You knuckleheads want an amendment to the constitution for every little thing.

Does it not follow, in your estimation that a document written on how to govern a country 229 years ago might not cover every eventuality as the people and the society evolves?