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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 12:25 pm
@Baldimo,
Poor Baldimo. He had to straighten me out that he isn't a racist. Now he's had to go and deny being a misogynist to Cobbler. Why, oh why do people keep misinterpreting him? A pity, that.
Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 12:34 pm
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!1
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 01:48 pm
@snood,
Should I just let you guys mislabel me every chance you get, or should I defend myself against your BS?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 01:55 pm
@Baldimo,
It's the silly season everywhere.

Everyone's throwing crap at the wall to see what will stick.

I thank you for reminding me about Gary Johnson. He's an interesting candidate who should (I think) get more coverage in the US. Hard for him to get traction in the 2 party US system, but he makes a good amount of sense. As I posted earlier, he'd fit nicely into the Green Party in Canada. Interestingly (?), their party leader here is generally held to be the smartest politician we've got, even if the party's not doing well.

Getting the best candidate into the better parties is a difficult thing.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 01:59 pm
@Baldimo,
I wish I could point out a political thread with less BS y behaviour.

This is truly a moment where I wish the new A2k was already here. I'd set up a personal political silo where BS would mean the poster and the offending posts would get the hook immediately. I see Robert's trying to encourage/enforce more courtesy on the board, but it's going to be a journey.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 02:03 pm
House turns into battleground over LGBT rights

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The House floor is turning into an emotional, and at times ugly, battleground over LGBT rights, as Democrats accuse Republicans of promoting bigotry and discrimination over proposals GOP leaders say are intended to protect freedom of religion from government overreach.

The conflict erupted on Thursday when Republican leaders successfully whipped their members to vote down a Democratic amendment that sought to prevent taxpayer dollars from being used to pay contractors that discriminate against employees on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.

The proposal, authored by Rep. Sean Maloney (D-N.Y.), appeared on the cusp of being adopted as the vote came to a close, but at the last minute six Republican members switched their votes and the amendment was defeated on a 212-to-213 vote.

Outraged Democrats shouted “shame” and accused Republican leaders of abusing chamber rules by holding the vote open until they could twist enough arms to kill the amendment.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 04:01 pm
Roberta Lange's death threats
Roberta Lange speaks out against the death threats she has received since the Nevada Convention
https://www.facebook.com/electoralcollege/videos/vb.162644754122178/221294661590520/

Vote for Bernie Sanders, OR ELSE!
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 04:33 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 04:40 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 04:59 pm
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 10:28 pm
Rude Pundit: Our Stupid Clinton/Sanders Battle Is Gonna Lose Us the War with Trump

The Rude Pundit is done arguing about whether Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton will be a stronger candidate against Donald Trump. He'll vote for whichever one is the nominee, but he's done fighting the idiotically vicious battle between them any further. He's seen both sides attack, having supported each one at different times. He's watched the overdramatic rhetoric get hotter and hotter. He's received death wishes and insults and, really, everyone who sent them can just go **** themselves with a Trump butt plug.

Back in May 2008, when Hillary Clinton was continuing her obviously doomed campaign, having her surrogates fighting over delegate rules, trying to convince superdelegates to come to her side, this blog was resolutely against what she was doing and attacked her savagely for refusing to face the reality of her defeat. It would be the height of hypocrisy to not think the same about Bernie Sanders, clearly in a worse situation than Clinton was eight years ago. The Rude Pundit may not like the outcome, but there it is. And if there is one thing he despises more than anything, it's goddamned hypocrisy.

In June 2008, he wrote this about trying to understand angry Clinton supporters (and they were mighty ******* angry): "The Rude Pundit would like to think that if he was in the position of Clinton's voters, that his candidate was actually losing the nomination, he'd have the sense to toss in the towel, as many previous Clinton supporters are doing. He'd like to think that, well, ****, the rules sometimes suck, but so be it. And instead work to change the rules for the future. Yes, he'd like to think he'd be so gracious. Indeed, when it seemed that Clinton was the inevitable nominee back last year, the Rude Pundit was ready to go all in to defeat the real enemy, and that was never Hillary Clinton. And he certainly knows that he wouldn't keep fighting if Clinton got the number of delegates needed to win the nomination."

In a Kumbaya moment, he continued, "As Democrats, one of the things we have to figure out is how to respect the rage of the hardcore Clinton voters...We who support Obama cannot take this rage for granted. Surely, Obama has his work cut out for him in reaching out to Clinton supporters, when he secures the majority of the delegates. When that moment comes, though, it's incumbent upon us, the Obama supporters in Left Blogsylvania, to offer comfort to Clinton's most rabid acolytes and give them another place to call home."

Change names and the fight is the same. You want to think it isn't. You want to think that this fight is special, like you always want to believe that that guy you fucked last night is the one, that you can find happiness together. Sorry, but chances are that he's just another ****. He might have been a good ****, but you'll **** again. The Rude Pundit wasn't dumb and deluded in 2008. He ain't dumb and deluded now.

There is a fuckin' brawl coming, Democrats. You think you've seen fights? You think you've been through Atwater and Rove and nothing can be as bad as Willie Horton or Swift Boats or Arkansas murders. Karl Rove didn't have Twitter or Instagram in 2000. You don't know the dirty fight that's about to happen. That's like saying you've been through a fight if you've just been punched in the face or had a bottle broken over your head. You don't know what a fight is until you've been on the ground, getting stomped and kicked and desperately hoping your hands don't break from covering your face, hoping you aren't killed, that your skull doesn't crack, that you can come out of it with a few teeth, flailing and trying to grab someone's leg or fist to try to stop them, hoping you can walk when it's done, wanting so badly to rip the nuts off the fuckers beating you down. Until you've gotten up from that, busted up, bleeding, sore, ribs fucked, nose broken, and wondered if it's even worth fighting on, you haven't been through what's about to hit our candidate.

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http://rudepundit.blogspot.de/2016/05/our-stupid-clintonsanders-battle-is.html#sthash.NTf2Mx2l.uxfs&st_refDomain=www.facebook.com&st_refQuery=/
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 10:36 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
The only thing I can answer is, let's not pretend chaos is not what a lot of Bernie people want at the convention.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 10:40 pm
@snood,
Lets not pretend that Hilary Clinton has no problem ignoring almost half of the voices in the primary going into the Convention.

We will end up giving the Presidency to Trump.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2016 11:04 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
How is she ignoring half the votes? What is she doing to disregard voters?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 05:38 am
@snood,
Allow me to re-post that: Lets not pretend that Hilary Clinton supporters have no problem ignoring almost half of the voices in the primary going into the Convention.

We will end up giving the Presidency to Trump.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 05:47 am
@bobsal u1553115,
There can only be one leader. It looks like Clinton will get the most votes.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 06:07 am
@izzythepush,
The operative phrase: "it looks like." If that's true, why bother to have the Convention? What's the point of a platform committee?

A leader generally goes about broadening his support by adopting majority positions. For example, if Clinton would listen to the minority of her supporters who want free education/universal healthcare who with the majority of Bernie's who want those sorts of things, she would be listening to a majority of the voters. These are positions that polls show a majority of voters consistently want regardless of the candidate they support.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 06:15 am
@bobsal u1553115,
She's not yet announced a running mate, it's still early days. I'm sure if she wins the nomination she'll try a bit of consensus building.

Even Trump is trying to soften his full blown nutter image.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 06:28 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2016 06:34 am
@izzythepush,
Prenaming VPs has a rich history of fail. Part of naming the VP at the convention is for broadening support. Some of the names she is vetting are very, very good. Almost too good. I'd like to see them left in the Senate.

Last night Rachel Maddow Show was about this. In fact that show was one of the best she's ever done - in a galaxy of very good shows she's done in the past.
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