Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

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And no, I am not one of those "followers".
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Region Philbis
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 06:42 pm


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Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 06:53 pm
@Region Philbis,
Bill Clinton was impeached for actual crimes.
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 07:01 pm
Day before Riot, Republicans in Congress were seen Giving Tours to Groups Who Took Part in the Capitol Takeover!
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 07:28 pm
oralloy wrote:

Bill Clinton was impeached for actual crimes.

So... if I say that incitement to insurrection is an impeachable crime that Donald Trump committed, let me guess.
You say that it’s not an impeachable crime, or that Trump didn’t do it, or both?
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 07:45 pm
Oralloy wrote:
Bill Clinton was impeached for actual crimes.



Hope Hicks resigns ....who will change his Depends?

Do you know what is an actual crime?


Crimes like lying to the American people?
President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims
How many lies has Trump told?
Crimes like firing people investigating you?
Crimes like impeding an investigation into himself?
Crimes like using tax payer money to plant his fat ass on the golf course for 1/3 of his stay in office?
Crimes like using your office to profit, emoluments? Sending troops way out of the way so they can stay at your overprices resort?
Crimes like threatening to withhold money from Ukraine for political favors that are against moral and ethical campaigning laws?
Crimes like not coming to the aid of states because they did not vote for you?
Crimes like appointing criminals into high government office?
Crimes like racism?
Crimes like inflating your wealth for bank loans?
Crimes like a university scam to rip off students?
Crimes like a cancer charity to rip off children with cancer?
Crimes like laundering Russian money?
Crimes like threatening states into overturning a fair election?
Crimes like threatening the vice President into overturning a fair election?
Crimes like bribing republicans to support his corruption?
Crimes like paying thugs to kidnap a state governor?
Crimes like disenfranchising black voters and making it harder to vote?
Crimes like paying porn stars whom he fornicated with hush money with campaign funds?
Crimes like sedition and inciting riots?
Crimes like sitting on his fat ass while hundreds of thousands die of covid so he can overturn a fair election?

If lying about a blowjob is a crime then what about THESE asshole?
Trump has not been prosecuted for the multitude of crimes he has perpetuated. Bill Clinton is still a free man 20 years later..
And Bill Clinton did not require any "pardon" for himself or his family.
Let's see how long your criminal president Trump remains free from his "actual crimes".

I am sure there are hundreds of crimes that Trump has committed that were not listed.

Like putting kids in cages for weeks on end and leaving them vulnerable to sexual molestation by his Qanon pals.
Sterilizing immigrant women.
Building a racist border wall that 7 in 10 Americans oppose.


1. Obstructing Justice
The trail of evidence starts with Trump’s attempt to get James Comey, the FBI director responsible for overseeing the investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia during the 2016 election, to drop an investigation into National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
When Comey refused, Trump fired him.
Trump made two more attempts at stopping the investigation by trying (unsuccessfully) to fire Robert Mueller, Comey’s predecessor. Then, Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts took place – McGahn refused.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to intimidate or influence witnesses in proceedings against him.
In all, Robert Mueller’s investigation revealed multiple instances where there was “very substantial” evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice.
Read more about Donald Trump’s obstruction here.

2. Profiting from the Presidency

The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.
Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration.
Saudi officials and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests.
China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies.
Trump promoted his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference, and then the White House announced the multi-million dollar contract was awarded to Trump’s own resort after Trump’s suggestion. Ultimately, this contract was canceled despite his attempts to abuse his position.
And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

3. Soliciting Foreign Interference in US Elections

Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national.


Donald Trump publicly called on Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s “missing” emails on July 27, 2016. Five hours later, Russian hackers attacked Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting.
Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimnik, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy.

Trump used U.S. military aid to pressure Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 elections and must be impeached because no one is above the law.
He illegally withheld $400 million dollars of military aid to Ukraine and in a call with the President of Ukraine, asked them to “do us a favor” by investigating Joe Biden’s family and a debunked conspiracy theory (that has been pushed by Russian intelligence) alledging Ukraine hacked the DNC’s computer servers.
White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney admitted in a press conference that Trump had withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure them to investigate his rivals for the 2020 election. He told the public to “Get Over it” as the White House does this “All the time”. Other State Department officials made it clear to the Ukrainian government that the aide would not be released unless the Ukrainians investigated the Biden family for the purpose of helping Trump win re-election.
Trump told the press that, in addition to Ukraine, China should investigate the Bidens specifically and said “If they [China] do what we want, we have tremendous power” in ongoing trade negotiations.
After this occurred, a Trump aide claimed that the Chinese had, in fact, given him information on Hunter Biden’s business dealings in the country.
Multiple witnesses confirmed in the public impeachment hearings before the House Intelligence Committee that Trump was attempting to bribe and extort Ukraine into helping his reelection.

4. Advocating Political & Police Violence

When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.
Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence.
When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters.

5. Abuse of Power

President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power.
Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan.
In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers.
Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.

6. Engaging in Reckless Conduct

High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.
Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.
The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

7. Persecuting Political Opponents

President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.
This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

8. Attacking the Free Press

President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.
He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as the basis for this list.

9. Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process

Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.
The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.
Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families,’ served as content for this impeachable offense.

10. Violating Campaign Finance Laws

Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.
At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.
Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.
Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.

And let's not forget funding and supporting seditionists to invade our US Capital.

You have the idiocy to compare a single lie about a blowjob compared to all of this?

Besides, Bill Clinton's sex life was nobody's ******* business but his own and his wife's and consenting adults who he felt were entitled to his privacy.

It is not like he used campaign money to pay off a porn star or something...

Actual crimes...

Like lying about something that is legal and nobody's business?

And what's up with Trump and Hope Hicks? Why won't Trump's wife hold his hand in public? Would someone maybe Lindsey Graham put Trump in front of a congressional hearing and ask him for all the world to see?
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 07:49 pm
You've explained it perfectly, although the intended audience will not understand a word that you've written....others will understand. You can't lead a dope to the classroom/evidence/facts but you can't make them use the little grey cells.
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 07:57 pm
Thx GB Smile

Define "actual crimes".

Crimes ignored for political gain.
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:21 pm
Actual crimes...

Like when Joe Biden gives Hunter Biden cushy job in the White House with a million dollar a year salary and gets all of his friends security clearances by bribing or ignoring the protocols of the FBI.

Well if it is not a crime for Trump, his daughter, his son in law and the whole crime family it is not a crime for Biden.

If anyone disagrees with this, Biden can fire them and if there are legal ramification Biden can just keep firing the attorney general until he gets one that is sympathetic.

Biden can call for protests on republican institutions and bus armed protesters in by the thousands and that is not an actual crime. Not one single republican senator thinks that is an impeachable offence.

Biden can ram through unqualified judges because all that matters is loyalty to the party, certainly not ethics...

And when the next election comes up we will close the polling stations and only allow mail in ballots. Because voting is for progressives only.

Biden can elicit foreign states to come in and flood our airwaves with their money and fake news. Because he is above the law and cannot be prosecuted.

Trump's emails!

Because an "actual crime" is lying about a blowjob...
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:25 pm
Sen. Lindsey 'smarmy' Graham voted to convict Bill Clinton for the horrendous offense of lying about a BJ...................but he won't vote against Donald 'skid mark' Trump for trying to overthrow an election. Let's set these things on a scale....BJ, nobody died....Lindsey is critically offended because a BJ is a threat against democracy.......................on the other side, Trump tries to steal an election, organizes an insurrection trying to deprive the entire country of their right to vote....Lindsey shrugs and says lets not fight over silly things.

It's time for him to be put out to pasture. The sooner the better.
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:30 pm
Lindsey is disingenuous and his greed for the money troth has him eating actual crimes like hors d'oeuvres at a republican fundraiser...

History books will not be kind to him.
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Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:49 pm
“The Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before #45 leaves office” per a McConnell spokesman. McConnell could’ve given #45 “a solid” by having a Senate trial which would surely acquitted him. But he didn’t and this isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
Schummer becomes Majority Leader and will control witnesses, evidence introduced and subpoenas. Subpoenas is what i think will make this a very different impeachment trial. The Senate will be able to get access to a treasure trove of evidence. What was the White House (#45) did coordinating the rally on the Ellipse. Who knew what when. Did the White House stop the Pentagon or DOJ or Homeland Security from responding quicker? The Democratic controlled Senate can build a timeline. Now with the 10 Republicans who voted for impeachment in the House, they’ve basically given a blue print and “cover” for Senate Republicans. Making this impeachment trial a toss up.

I am sure Trump wishes this was only for lying about a BJ.

Tarnished by last week’s riot at the Capitol, #45 is ending his presidency with his lowest-ever poll numbers.
A new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll pegs his approval at just 34%, the lowest in four years of tracking opinions of the president’s job performance. More than six in 10 voters — 63 percent — disapprove.
Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:55 pm
Home Depot steps up!
Home Depot founder & Trump donor told CNBC:
"I was betrayed so I will do everything I can to make Joe Biden the best president we've ever had.. because this country is facing serious issues."
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Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2021 08:59 pm
We democrats don't need a violent coup, we can win on sound policies and function lawfully within the structure of our US Constitution.
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Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 08:07 am
I am not saying which way I lean on the following subject, because frankly I don't know which is best.

But Biden really didn't want an impeachment because he felt it would hinder us from new policies going forward and getting his cabinet confirmed. On the other hand, there is an accountability issue and it would set a precedent for future would be copycat Trump's administrations in the future.

The senate trial also don't make much sense in the traditional way of removing a president who is already gone. But it would be good for history to get all that information. But is it worth it? We could be bogged down in a time when there is so much to do.

Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 08:14 am
Day before Riot, Republicans in Congress were seen Giving Tours to Groups Who Took Part in the Capitol Takeover!

Suspicious, I imagine the FBI is looking into that.
Region Philbis
Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 08:17 am
The senate trial also don't make much sense in the traditional way of removing a president who is already gone. But it would be
good for history to get all that information. But is it worth it? We could be bogged down in a time when there is so much to do.

it is absolutely worth it...

Why have an impeachment trial if Trump is already gone?

Impeachment could be used to remove Trump from office and to disqualify him from holding political office in the future.

Two historical precedents, both involving federal judges, make clear that the Senate could also vote to disqualify the president
from holding office in the future, with only a simple majority needed.

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