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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 07:51 am
@oralloy,
Well, he must have been ("Trump brought the world early vaccines"): Dr. Ugur Sahin and Dr. Özlem Türeci, the couple, who own the Germany company BioNTech, began work on the vaccine in January. With Trump, according your post.
[BioNTech and Pfizer agreed in March to collaborate on a coronavirus vaccine.]
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 09:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
With Trump, according your post.

No. There are multiple vaccines being produced. Mr. Trump provided financial backing for the Moderna and Novavax vaccines.

Additionally, I don't think his physical presence is required for this financial backing.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 09:30 am
@oralloy,
Novavax is just now launching the phase 3 trial of its Covid-19 vaccine - I thought, you mentioned the early vaccines.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 11:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Mr. Trump's financial backing is making vaccines available much sooner than they otherwise would be.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 11:45 am
@oralloy,
BioNTech received $445 million from German government, not one cent from the US government (or "Mr. Trump).
(Berlin gave the German company $445 million in an agreement in September to help accelerate the vaccine by building out manufacturing and development capacity in its home market.)

Pfizer & BioNTech didn't receive any money from the US government (nor "Mr. Trump"), but Operation Warp Speed agreed to buy vaccine doses if approved.
(The Trump administration agreed in July to pay almost $2 billion for 100 million doses, with an option to acquire as many as 500 million more, once that clearance comes.)
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 01:08 pm
Usual white privilege and presidential silence applied when Nashville bomber identified as a Trump supporter white man
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/12/28/2004473/-Usual-white-privilege-and-presidential-silence-applied-when-Nashville-bomber-identified-as-white-man

Twitter comment:
Anthony Warner levels a city block in #nashvilleexplosion & Duke Webb, active military member, allegedly kills 3 and injures 3 more in #Rockford IL

Trump has used profanity to attack kneeling football players and smeared those protesting racial violence.

Silence on this one.

Another Twitter comment:
When you're Black and the police shoot and kill you during a routine traffic stop, they describe you as a suspect and publish an old mug shot.

But if you're White, blow up a whole city block, you're a "person of interest" and @USATODAY publishes your elementary school photo. OK.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 01:25 pm
Trump Administration Passed on Chance to Secure More of Pfizer Vaccine
WASHINGTON — Before Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine was proved highly successful in clinical trials last month, the company offered the Trump administration the chance to lock in supplies beyond the 100 million doses the pharmaceutical maker agreed to sell the government as part of a $1.95 billion deal over the summer.

But the administration, according to people familiar with the talks, never made the deal, a choice that now raises questions about whether the United States allowed other countries to take its place in line.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/us/politics/trump-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 01:40 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

Usual white privilege and presidential silence applied when Nashville bomber identified as a Trump supporter white man
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/12/28/2004473/-Usual-white-privilege-and-presidential-silence-applied-when-Nashville-bomber-identified-as-white-man

Twitter comment:
Anthony Warner levels a city block in #nashvilleexplosion & Duke Webb, active military member, allegedly kills 3 and injures 3 more in #Rockford IL

Trump has used profanity to attack kneeling football players and smeared those protesting racial violence.

Silence on this one.

Another Twitter comment:
When you're Black and the police shoot and kill you during a routine traffic stop, they describe you as a suspect and publish an old mug shot.

But if you're White, blow up a whole city block, you're a "person of interest" and @USATODAY publishes your elementary school photo. OK.


It bore repeating.

It’s striking- the contrast between the way an act of violence by a POC and an act of violence by a white person is covered.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 01:59 pm
GOP Official Blames White House Party for Covid
“The vice-chairman of the Massachusetts Republican State Committee is battling COVID-19 after attending what he described as a largely maskless holiday party at the White House earlier this month,” the Boston Globe reports.
He told WJAR: “Let's put it this way: When I went down to Washington, D.C., for the White House Hanukkah event, I was perfectly fine. And three days later after that event, I was in the hospital… ready to be put on a lifesaving ventilator.”
Said Tom Mountain: “I didn’t listen to the warnings of my own family, and now I’m paying the price.”

https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/1cCyTMMPVNzVTRg252pLF5CRHR4=/420x0/filters:focal(452x747:462x737)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bostonglobe/YCLFKYH6HJAV3G7RRPBODKEU3A.JPG

The face of stupid, the party of stupid.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 02:31 pm
Kelly Loeffler’s Conflict of Interest Is Even Worse Than Reported
The senator had power over regulators whose work directly affected her own financial interests.
David Corn

As she campaigns for reelection in the January 5 run-off, Kelly Loeffler, the super-wealthy former corporate executive and Republican donor who was appointed in late 2019 to a vacant US Senate seat in Georgia, has had to deal with bruising revelations about her personal finances and business dealings. These include the fact that when she entered the Senate in January 2020, she was given a spot on the Agriculture Committee, which oversees government regulators of the Fortune 500 business where she was recently a top officer. The company, Intercontinental Exchange (known as ICE), owns and operates a number of financial and commodity exchanges regulated by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which falls under jurisdiction of the Agriculture Committee.

Loeffler’s assignment to the committee seemed a whopping conflict of interest: She still owned between $5 million and $25 million in ICE stock, and her husband, Jeffrey Sprecher, is its CEO. Worse, Loeffler was placed on the committee’s subcommittee on commodities, which has direct oversight of the CFTC. In response to criticism, she left the subcommittee in May but remained a member of the full committee.

Yet one piece of this tale has received little notice. Her conflict of interest was even more pronounced, for while Loeffler was on the commodities subcommittee, the CFTC took several actions that impacted ICE. This means Loeffler was overseeing regulators at the same time they were engaged in activity affecting a company she was intimately tied to as a current shareholder, former executive, and spouse of its CEO. That’s very swampy.

The CFTC is highly important for ICE. As the firm’s annual report put it, several of its exchanges are “subject to extensive regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.” The Wall Street Journal noted that the CFTC’s “rule-making agenda can have a major impact on the company’s operations.” While a senior exec at ICE, Loeffler criticized the CFTC for proposing “excess regulation.”

One particular conflict was rather obvious. In 2018, Loeffler left the ICE corporate team to become head of Bakkt, a new federally regulated market for trading Bitcoin that ICE launched. A short time later, when she was a senator overseeing the CFTC, ICE was concerned that Bakkt could be severely hurt by CFTC regulations. ICE pointed this out in a filing it submitted to the Securities and Exchange Committee in February 2020. The filing noted that the “CFTC has designated bitcoin as a commodity…subject to the CFTC’s jurisdiction and enforcement powers.” It stated that if the CFTC pursued an aggressive approach to this exchange, “it may have a significant adverse impact on Bakkt’s business and plan of operations.” ICE pointed out that CFTC activity—or the lack thereof—was crucial for the future prospects of the venture Loeffler once headed: “Ongoing and future regulatory actions may impact the ability of Bakkt to continue to operate, and such actions could affect the ability of Bakkt to continue as a going concern.” (In March 2020, the CFTC issued a major decision affecting cryptocurrency markets.)

And Loeffler had a direct financial interest in Bakkt. In early 2019, she was awarded a $15.6 million stake in a company that owned a chunk of Bakkt—about half of which she cashed out at the end of that year when she left the firm, in an arrangement criticized by corporate governance experts.

So Loeffler was one of a handful of senators on the subcommittee that keeps a watch on the CFTC when the commission was making decisions essential to her old company and a subsidiary she had run—two corporate entities in which she held large investments.

At this time, the CFTC was taking other actions that held consequences for ICE. On March 17, 2020, the commission, in response to the coronavirus pandemic, eased reporting requirements for financial exchanges known as “swap execution facilities” and “designated contract markets.” ICE has a swap trade business. It also had a subsidiary, ICE Futures US, that was a designated contract market. As the CFTC noted in its letter announcing this regulatory change, the action had been requested by ICE Futures US and five other exchanges. At the same time, the commission adopted similar steps for “futures commission merchants.” Bakkt was registered as a futures commission merchant with the CFTC.

These regulatory shifts, as the Wall Street Journal explained, would “allow trading venues, banks, brokers and other parties to skip certain record-keeping requirements until June 30 if they work from home. Under normal circumstances traders must have systems in place to record phone calls in which trades are executed, as well as timestamps for derivatives transactions. Because they are unlikely to have access to recorded phone lines and other systems in their homes, the CFTC will allow traders to keep manual records of transactions.” But this move had a possible danger, as Justin Slaughter, a former CFTC official, told the Journal: “There is a risk that some traders will operate in ways that are contrary to regulation or law. That is a very unfortunate risk. It’s the reason we don’t let people trade at home under normal circumstances for large desks. But at the moment we have to take into account other considerations.” Though traders contended this suspension of regulations was necessary during a pandemic, some international regulators feared that permitting traders to put aside crucial means of recording trades would lead to assorted abuses, including insider trading and market manipulation.

The CFTC frequently issued rules related to Loeffler’s old company, as she sat on the subcommittee. In February—pre-COVID—the CFTC revised other regulations for data record-keeping and reporting requirements relevant to ICE and its subsidiaries. And in late January 2020, the commission approved new regulations governing seven different commodity contracts run by ICE.

During this stretch in early 2020, ICE was busy lobbying the Senate, the House, and the CFTC regarding the “regulation of the trading system for agriculture, energy and other futures” and related legislation, according to a lobbying disclosure form the company had to fill out. In the first three months of 2020, ICE spent $726,454 on these lobbying efforts. (ICE’s well-connected lobbyists included Alex Albert, once an aide to former Sen. Zell Miller, a Georgia Democrat, and Hope Jarkowski, a former aide for the Senate Banking Committee.) The firm spent nearly another $500,000 on similar lobbying in the subsequent six months. ICE’s lobbying disclosure forms do not require it to state whether its lobbyists had any contact with Loeffler.

Even though Loeffler departed the subcommittee overseeing the CFTC amid criticism, by remaining on the Agriculture Committee, she did not fully resolve the conflict of interest. And a review of the CFTC’s regulatory actions—particularly when Loeffler was a member of the subcommittee—shows just how far Loeffler went in ignoring the conflict between her official responsibilities and her private interests. She had power over regulators whose work affected her previous companies and her own current financial condition (and that of her husband). In her world, it seems, there was nothing wrong with that.

Comment:
This is the very definition of "corruption".
Put Al Capone in charge of the police...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/kelly-loefflers-conflict-of-interest-is-even-worse-than-reported/
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 03:47 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Trump has used profanity to attack kneeling football players

And rightly so. Those scumbags are wrong to support the murder of police officers.


TheCobbler wrote:
and smeared those protesting racial violence.

Characterizing self defense as "racial violence" is pretty vile.


TheCobbler wrote:
When you're Black and the police shoot and kill you during a routine traffic stop, they describe you as a suspect and publish an old mug shot.

If you don't want to be called a suspect, don't try to murder police officers.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Dec, 2020 03:49 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
It’s striking- the contrast between the way an act of violence by a POC and an act of violence by a white person is covered.

If you don't want to be condemned for murdering police officers, then don't murder police officers.
TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 12:41 pm
@oralloy,
It is you who is supporting the murder of police officers by attempting to attract, promoting and furthering racism in the police force. Poisoning our sacred institutions. This in turn sows a "justifiable" lack of trust in police. Just as you have fostered a lack of trust in the 2nd amendment by promoting unregulated militias and your proud boy campers full of WMD explosives. Your party has weakening the trust in police and the trust in the 2nd amendment while making a joke of the highest office in the land. You have corrupted the government with your tax free corporations who bribed you you and you placed in high offices so they could protect their corrupt practices. This treachery is about to fall hard, the electorate has turned against you for "good" reason... your criminal kind! You have no credibility, everything you say is a lie and the American people know it. Your party is rotten to the core and your blight on this nation is coming to a swift and well deserved end... This couldn't happen to a more pathetic and worthless person as yourself. Your lies have caught up with you and there is hell to pay for your immoral treason. Let's get one thing clear! The football players were not taking a knee to protest police... they were taking a knee to protest YOU! I stand firmly with them. America is not "great" with your crooked party in charge, it is a shame and sham! The last four years have taught us that all too clear!
TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 12:45 pm
@oralloy,
You are guilty of this murder your pass the blame on... for corrupting the police force with your party's racism.

The problem is you and your racist bigots.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 01:31 pm
@TheCobbler,
I have nothing at all to do with the Democratic Party's racism and bigotry.

And no, when black people murder police officers, they are the one who is guilty. I am not responsible for their crimes.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 02:11 pm
@oralloy,
So, does that mean you are going to leave the Democratic Party?

Why are you still even associated with them, after all those times calling for their outlawing and the other ideological differences (for example gun rights)?
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 03:58 pm
@Rebelofnj,
There are still things that I agree with the Democrats about -- taxing the wealthy to pay for social programs for example.

I don't think that violating people's civil liberties for fun is really an ideological difference. Progressives are just bad people.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 04:01 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
It is you who is supporting the murder of police officers

Nope. That's you and Snood.


TheCobbler wrote:
by attempting to attract, promoting and furthering racism in the police force.

Wrong again. It's not racism when the police protect themselves from black people who are trying to murder them.


TheCobbler wrote:
This in turn sows a "justifiable" lack of trust in police.

Progressive nutbags are responsible for their own weird ideas. It's not anybody else's fault.


TheCobbler wrote:
Just as you have fostered a lack of trust in the 2nd amendment by promoting unregulated militias and your proud boy campers full of WMD explosives.

I've done no such thing.

It's progressives who caused the militia movement when they falsely claimed that people only have freedom and civil liberties if they are members of a militia.


TheCobbler wrote:
Your party has weakening the trust in police and the trust in the 2nd amendment while making a joke of the highest office in the land.

And I have strongly spoken out against you guys for doing it.


TheCobbler wrote:
You have corrupted the government with your tax free corporations who bribed you you and you placed in high offices so they could protect their corrupt practices. This treachery is about to fall hard, the electorate has turned against you for "good" reason... your criminal kind!

You are delusional. Your babbling has little connection to reality.


TheCobbler wrote:
You have no credibility, everything you say is a lie and the American people know it.

You are the only liar here. You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.


TheCobbler wrote:
Your party is rotten to the core and your blight on this nation is coming to a swift and well deserved end...

Again, I'm the one who is leading the charge to have them outlawed.


TheCobbler wrote:
This couldn't happen to a more pathetic and worthless person as yourself. Your lies have caught up with you and there is hell to pay for your immoral treason.

You are the only liar here. You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.


TheCobbler wrote:
Let's get one thing clear! The football players were not taking a knee to protest police... they were taking a knee to protest YOU!

Wrong. The scumbags were taking a knee to advocate letting black people murder police officers with impunity.


TheCobbler wrote:
I stand firmly with them.

Don't be surprised if you ever need the police and they don't bother to show up.


TheCobbler wrote:
America is not "great" with your crooked party in charge, it is a shame and sham! The last four years have taught us that all too clear!

So let's hurry up and outlaw them once and for all.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 04:40 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
There are still things that I agree with the Democrats about

Apparently, those are not enough to appease you, due to your countless calls to have the Democrats outlawed.

One reason I brought up gun rights is that President Trump, who you support without question, has a mixed record on gun rights over the years.
*May 2013: "Big Second Amendment believer but background checks to weed out the sicko's are fine."
*February 2017: Trump signed a bill into law rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to purchase guns.
*February 2018: During the televised meeting, the president called for a “powerful” bill on background checks to address mental illness. “We’re going to be very strong on background checks. We’re going to be doing very strong background checks.”
*February 2018: During that televised meeting with lawmakers Trump seemed open to supporting the assault weapons ban. Also proposed raising the age limit for buying assault rifles from 18 years old to 21.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-trumps-record-gun-control-reform/story?id=64783662

Funny enough, one of my friends left the Democratic Party because it was not progressive enough. He has since joined a more left wing political party.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Wed 30 Dec, 2020 04:47 pm
@oralloy,
If the Democrats get outlawed, then what happens to you? Will you just be an independent voter?

Luckily, I don't have to worry about you personally affecting my life in any way.
 

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