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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 03:22 pm
@snood,
Quote:
You think the deplorables were potential HRC votes?


Many likely were. It's not that they all took the leap to Trump, some went third party, some stayed home on election day. Would that have been enough? I'm not sure.
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Sturgis
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 03:24 pm
@TheCobbler,
You might want to send that passage to yourself. Then stand in front of a mirror and say it to yourself.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 03:25 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

The only person here being a hypocrite is you. You attack anyone who doesn't agree with your level of extremism and that includes those on the left who would normally agree with you on other subjects.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 03:40 pm
@Baldimo,
You are still fixated on Trump's titty bar?

What, you think he does not own them?

Donald Trump owns casinos with strip clubs in them.

He sells more than steaks there...

Trump Taj Mahal 'Scores' City's First Casino Strip Club
https://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/casinos/trump-taj-mahal-scores-city-s-first-casino-strip-club/article_3ce0fac8-63ff-5ee2-9bf0-e7e7271e12de.html

Trump's utopian dream of the future is a strip club in every Trump Tower.

China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html

Saudi Arabia is simply another ploy for selling his "pimp" services to other countries.

You are sure stupid to insist on a response that would only reveal the true cesspool that Trump is.

Trump can breathe a sigh of relief that he now owns the trademark, "Trump Escort Services" in China...

Psst, it will cost extra if you want a dancer to follow you to your room...
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TheCobbler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 03:42 pm
@Sturgis,
The trumpites are loving you today! lol

Look in the mirror and you will see them standing shoulder to shoulder with you! Smile
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 04:03 pm
@TheCobbler,
Trumpites believe in doing the right thing. That's why we support Mr. Trump.

I dislike the frequent bouts of name-calling that Sturgis engages in, but he is correct in this case.
TheCobbler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 04:11 pm
@oralloy,
The point is, criticizing Hillary while staying silent on Trump is hypocritical and immoral.

Immoral, like you...
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 04:16 pm
@TheCobbler,
I've more morality in my little toe than exists in your entire family tree.
TheCobbler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 05:58 pm
@oralloy,
Maybe, if you kept your morality in your heart instead of your "little toe"...
TheCobbler
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 06:00 pm
Here is another republican who keeps his morality in his little toe...

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul votes against bill funding coronavirus emergency aid
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/05/coronavirus-outbreak-rand-paul-threatens-block-emergency-bill/4961989002/

The bill had already received more than 60 affirmative votes, which was more than it needed to pass, when Paul voted against it. The bill passed 96-1.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 06:11 pm
@TheCobbler,
There is plenty of morality throughout my body. If you knew what it was like to have morality you'd have realized that.
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TheCobbler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 06:13 pm
@Glennn,
DEBUNKING FALSE STORIES
Clinton Foundation Not Shutting Down
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/clinton-foundation-not-shutting/

Q: Was the Clinton Foundation ordered to cease operations and Chelsea Clinton charged with fraud?

A: No. Those baseless claims were made up by a self-described “satirical” website.


FULL QUESTION
Has the Clinton Foundation been found to have committed fraud?

FULL ANSWER
The Clinton Foundation — the sprawling non-profit charity founded by Bill Clinton — has not been shut down, and Chelsea Clinton has not been charged with fraud. Those bogus charges were made in a May story about the foundation’s “newest scandal” on Clear Politics, which Facebook users flagged as potentially fake.

“They have been ordered to cease their operations,” the article says. “Their CEO, Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of former president Bill Clinton and Hillary is now charged with fraud and there is a warrant for her arrest.”

The article claims those details were “reported by InfoWars and then continued to get reported by bigger news sources like Fox, Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.” That’s false.

InfoWars is notorious for propagating conspiracy theories and publishing thinly sourced stories, but a search for “Clinton Foundation” on the website doesn’t return any results about it being shut down. Nor does a search for “Chelsea Clinton” produce results about a fraud charge or an arrest warrant. There were no such results on FoxNews.com, either.

The only seemingly related story on either website was about the Clinton Global Initiative, a Clinton Foundation offshoot, voluntarily downsizing operations in January 2017. Bill Clinton had previously announced in an August 2016 letter that CGI would no longer hold its annual conferences, whether Hillary Clinton was elected president or not.

Rush Limbaugh did falsely say “it is disbanded” when talking about the Clinton Foundation with a caller on his conservative radio show in March, but that isn’t where Clear Politics got its claims. Instead, the first half of its story originated at a prolific “satirical” website, America’s Last Line of Defense, last year.

America’s Last Line of Defense, Dec. 20, 2016: The Clinton Foundation, which has been given an A+ rating as a charitable organization, making it slightly more reputable than the Red Cross, has been ordered to cease operations. The CEO, Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Bill and Hillary Clinton, has been charged with fraud and a warrant issued for her arrest.

Following the news, which was first reported on InfoWars and then passed to other reputable news sources like Fox, Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, the Clintons were nowhere to be found for an interview.

The reason for the shutdown is the alleged “pay for play” donations that saw rich and powerful terrorists gain access to Washington DC in exchange for cash. During Clinton’s time as Secretary of State, it’s been rumored that the 9/11 attack mastermind along with the creator of ISIS and Osama Bin Laden were all invited to the White House residence for ice cream sundaes and an evening of Scattergories.

Bin Laden, who trained the 9/11 terrorists, was then sent to Cheyenne Mountain to be sent off-world and kept safe from prosecution while Obama and Clinton staged his death. Documents linking the Clinton Foundation directly to General George Hammond of SG Command were the final piece of the puzzle.

A disclaimer on thelastlineofdefense.org says: “America’s Last Line of Defense is a satirical publication that may sometimes appear to be telling the truth. We assure you that’s not the case. We present fiction as fact and our sources don’t actually exist. Names that represent actual people and places are purely coincidental and all images should be considered altered and do not in any way depict reality.”

Readers may have suspected as much when the story says Hillary Clinton was rumored to have had ice cream and played board games at the White House with terrorists.

In reality, the Clinton Foundation is still very active, though it has seen a drop in fundraising. Hillary Clinton left the organization before launching her bid for president, and the Hill reported in April that she may not return. Bill Clinton is still very involved. He released a statement in February with the foundation’s annual report that detailed the foundation’s plans for 2017.

The second half of the Clear Politics story alleges that “Chelsea used the Foundation’s money to pay for her wedding expenses and other life luxuries.” That section comes from the New York Post — a tabloid owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal.

New York Post, Nov. 6, 2016: Chelsea Clinton used her family foundation’s cash to pay for her wedding, living expenses and taxes on gifts of cash from her parents, according to a bombshell email made public Sunday.

Doug Band, formerly a top aide to President Bill Clinton, griped about the former first daughter’s spending in a Jan. 4, 2012, email released by WikiLeaks.

“The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents…,” Band wrote to John Podesta, now Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman.

“I hope that you will speak to her and end this. Once we go down this road…”

Band’s message is contained in a chain of emails that were hacked from Podesta’s Gmail account. WikiLeaks has released more than 50,000 of the stolen emails over the past 32 days.

Earlier in his correspondence with Podesta, Band said he had “just received a call from a close friend” of Bill Clinton’s.

The Washington Post Fact Checker found that the allegation that “Chelsea Clinton used her family foundation’s cash to pay for her wedding” lacks evidence.

“Despite the breathless reporting, it’s hard to tell exactly what is going on in the email exchange, which is dated Jan. 4, 2012. There is no mention of actual Foundation monies being used for the wedding,” the Fact Checker wrote.

Other than the New York Post, no other U.S. newspaper ran the story about foundation payments for Clinton’s wedding, which was only picked up by “British tabloids, Fox News, Russian news agencies and various right-leaning websites,” the Fact Checker reported.

Both sections of this Clear Politics story are bogus — the first half is satire, and the second lacks evidence.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to help identify and label viral fake news stories flagged by readers on the social media network.

Comment: Glenn likes to spread lies too...

Like Oralloy, it makes that tiny vestige of morality left in his little toe tingle...
oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 06:17 pm
@TheCobbler,
Are you saying that people who share satirical articles are spreading lies?
Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 08:54 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
FULL QUESTION
Has the Clinton Foundation been found to have committed fraud?

FULL ANSWER
The Clinton Foundation — the sprawling non-profit charity founded by Bill Clinton — has not been shut down, and Chelsea Clinton has not been charged with fraud. Those bogus charges were made in a May story about the foundation’s “newest scandal” on Clear Politics, which Facebook users flagged as potentially fake.

The question was: did the CF commit fraud? The answer you've provided says that they were not charged with fraud. But the question is whether or not they committed fraud.

So:

Controversy over the foundation erupted after Peter Schweizer's 2015 book — "Clinton Cash" — suggested that the foundation served as a way for donors to curry favor with then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Coincidences?

And, indeed, the multitude of connections that slowly turned out became hard to dismiss as coincidental. There was the fact that 85 of the 154 private interests who'd met with Clinton during her tenure at state were Clinton Foundation donors.

Emails turned up showing how the foundation intervened to arrange a meeting between Clinton and the Crown Prince of Bahrain, a country that had been a major foundation donor. A Chicago commodities trader who donated $100,000 to the foundation got a top job on a State Department arms control panel, despite having no experience in the area. On and on it went.

Earlier this year, news broke that the FBI was investigating whether the foundation violated tax laws by converting donations to personal or political uses. In December, Republicans plan to hold a hearing into the probe, before handing control of the House to Democrats.

Throughout all this, the Clinton's and their defenders insisted that the foundation was doing great work for mankind. It was helping the poor and sick around the world. It got top ratings from charity rating agencies. They said there wasn't any hard evidence of wrongdoing.

Donations Evaporate.

But the most glaring indictment of the Clinton Foundation came from what happened last year, after Hillary Clinton lost the election — and effectively ended her political career.

First, the Clinton's almost immediately shuttered the Clinton Global Initiative and laid off 22 employees.

Now, fresh financial documents show that contributions and grants to the Clinton Foundation plunged since Hillary lost her election bid. They dropped from $216 million in 2016 to just $26.5 million in 2017 — a stunning 88% fall. Throughout Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State, the foundation pulled in an average of $254 million a year. (See the nearby chart below for a timeline.)

If the Clinton Foundation was as good as defenders claimed, why did all its big-time donors suddenly lose interest? The only reasonable explanation is that donors weren't interested in what the foundation supposedly did for humanity. They were interested in the political favors they knew their money would buy.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-foundation-donations/
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

So, you think it was just a coincidence that when she was no longer able to offer political influence, donations instantly take a major tumble?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 08:59 pm
@oralloy,
Only when they try to foist them off as fact.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 09:02 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Comment: Glenn likes to spread lies too...

You cannot provide any examples of him doing any such thing.


TheCobbler wrote:
Like Oralloy, it makes that tiny vestige of morality left in his little toe tingle...

It is the nature of you who are completely lacking in morality to falsely accuse your betters of your own immorality.

But all your dishonorable false accusations achieve is a demonstration of your own lack of morality.
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TheCobbler
 
  2  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 09:45 pm
@Glennn,
Yes, when Hillary lost and Trump won, all of those environmental groups lobbying Hillary to help heal our planet, protect our water and air, sustain our public lands from predators, and the health organizations seeking to insure old people and disabled people with affordable healthcare and the battered women's groups, the poor parents needing day-care and sick leave, the students being gouged by ridiculously high private college tuition and the low income people working for less than a living wage; they all had to find another champion for their cause because Trump and the republicans cheated and left them with no hope or help.

Trump and the republicans immediately rammed though their sweet pork barrel tax cut for the filthy stinking rich, put children in cages and jailed their immigrant parents. He put a religious nut in charge of science and our schools (because she donated big to his election fund). He decimated our health agencies, alienated our allies to pay Russia back for helping him cheat at the election...

Hillary had good people vying for her help... while Trump has surround himself with polluters, racists, sexists and stinking rich religious hypocrites hungry for power and the destruction of our most sacred secular institutions of high learning, rational thinking and reason.

Trump has degraded our standing and standard in the world and has left our country in a pathetic state of unpreparedness, if any serious thread should present itself, it is highly likely that we may not be able to defend ourselves.

And you are upset because Hillary tried to help "special interest" like fixing the environment and raising the middle class out of poverty, like it is mandated in our US Constitution? Hillary represents the core of American values...

Republicans are knee **** deep in corruption and their lobbyists and special interest groups are purely rotten to the core.

They have sold out American to the very basest element of society, all to enrich themselves.

Unlike Hillary whose sole and only purpose was to enrich, "we the people" of our country.

Therein lies the difference between Hillary and Trump...

The democrats surely won't let the republicans and their fake news lies steal another election from them ever again...

Republicans have lost any and all credibility, they flout their racism and greed openly and think no one cares that they are traitors to our republic...

They have another thing coming...
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 01:54 am
@TheCobbler,
So Trump doesn't have a titty bar in Saudi Arabia after all, it's in New York in a building part owned by the Saudis.

That's a considerable difference.

That sums up your problem, you mix up the truth with distortions and lies and in the end damage the cause you claim to support.

That's what Trump does, and if you sink to his level you're no better.

Stick to the truth, and avoid long diatribes which nobody will read. Brevity is the soul of wit.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 04:49 am

https://imgur.com/bNMeFfR.jpg
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 11:43 am
@Region Philbis,
Fear mongering. Is that all you got? FAIL.
 

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