plan to solve illegal immigration problem

I would suggest , that to demand english proficiency, you should be proficient in the language, as well.

99 percent of mexican and south American immigrants come to America with no unfounded resentments, and no feeling of entitlement to what you or I have. They are hard working freedom loving people who are often so generous they would give their shirt off their back to help you or I in a time of need. Just because you can't speak to them like you would a fluent english speaker doesn't mean you can't communicate with them. They aren't dumb, bad or unappreciative, they speak spanish, and they didn't come here to make your life bad. If you have a problem with stores posting signs in spanish, boycott them. It is your right.

On the otherhand, unchecked immigration would have a huge negitive economic impact.

There are good reasons to controlling our borders, but hating spanish speakers isn't one of them.

Here's a quick history lesson. In the period 1860-1865 the United States of America split into the Union and the Confederacy, and they had a CIVIL WAR. And they didn't fight the war because they spoke a different language, or one group was trying to make the other speak a Romantic language or that there was a problem with 'assimiliation'. So in the time of the most homogenous and economically stable times in American history - there was a huge war between predominantly white, English-speaking peoples of similiar ethnic heritage. What do you account for that? Those fuc#ing Mexicans again?

I wanna lern english mister rabel, plis teech me.

(Reading this thread is one of the things that made me smile today. It's ten times more fun than watching the German Fussballwehrmacht play)

[Now, comrades, let me whisper to you: President Fox has promised me he'll give all plotting A2Kers 100 acres of the best land in California when we reconquer our territory]

Once more, from the top: I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants (again, I married one, & am the son of immigrants--French, Scottish, Irish, & Portugese). My objection is with ILLEGAL ALIENS entering the country. Deport them all, deport them NOW.

Without having to use a really offensive word, we all know who was responsible for that. :wink:

As a last post on this site I still say I dont have anything against legal Immigrants. Nor do I have anything against Mexicans,Russians, Irish, Itilians or any other ethic group. Only illegal aliens. My thinks to whom ever corrected my spelling. Its good to know you know how to spell. I only wish you could understand what I was trying to point out which was the fact that I obey the laws of our country and wish that everyone else did also.

Then why were you railing against Mexican drivers who would be here legally? Telling people to stay in their houses and keep their family inside?

That belies the notion that only the illegality bothers you.

I am kind of curious rabel,

You never break the speed limit?

(BTW I rather like my outlaw life )

I couldn't name a single person that has not broken some kind of law at least once.

Let he who is without sin throw the first illegal alien out.

Re: plan to solve illegal immigration problem



There is one absolutely necessary part of any such plan which you probably have not considered.

You need to demand that our government get out of the Balkans, and hand Kosovo back over to its rightful owners, BEFORE the UN comes here demanding that we hand Texas, California, and probably Oklahoma over to Mexico on the same perverted basis of ethnicity being everything and things like rightful ownership, history, sovereignty etc. etc. no longer meaning anything.

Other than that, a reasonable national policy for immigration from points south would be to take people from every nation to the south of us EXCEPT MEXICO. I mean, land mines are cheap. We could mine the area along the Rio Grande, and then recommission some of the troop transport ships leftover from WW-II and set up some sort of a ferry service from Guatamala.

I mean, I'm all for immigration for deserving people but anybody claiming that what we're seeing now is the same thing as what we were seeing in 1880 is either smoking too much reefer or taking ignorance pills. We've never had anybody coming to this country with the intention of colonizing US before. I'd be all for putting somebody like A. Mitchell Palmer in charge of removing Atzlaners and their ilk from our shores.

Even a minimal set of rational rules would totally change the look of immigration. For one, a nation of 250 million people should not need "guest workers" to operate its farms. That's what teenagers are for.

Likewise, some effort to have learned English should be a bare minimum for entering this country.

Some of the people here don't seem to get out much.

The following article from Worldnet. Granted most immigrants from muslim countries are coming here to escape oppression and are simply seeking a better life, but if even five percent are coming with the kinds of intentions described here, we've got a problem.


FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN

Radical Islam's 'plan'
to take over America
Arab-American author outlines secret
20-year strategy to undermine country
Posted: August 4, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com - a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for the last 25 years.


© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam's 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 - a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Anis Shorrosh, author of ''Islam Revealed'' and ''The True Furqan,'' is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.

''The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,'' Shorrosh says. ''Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?''

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America - black gold. America's economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

* Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

* Use no birth control whatsoever - every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

* Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years - since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

* Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia's Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools - free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

''The True Furqan'' is also available for viewing on Islam-Exposed.org. Shorrosh's new website is Focusing-on-Islam.com.

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