Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 04:54 pm
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In Dresdon, the police said that some 17,500 were present, and in the previous week, 15,000 Germans gathered to protest against Islam in Germany. I did a whole video on this, with clips of the actual protests:


Do you get it yet? All of the 17,500 were neo-Nazis? What will it take to admit what apologists say is garbage? Islam is violent, subversive, relentless
And plans to dominate at any cost.

These people live this, and politicians are selling them out.


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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 05:17 pm
Where is "Dresdon"?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 05:21 pm
@contrex,
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Where is "Dresdon"?


A rose by any other name. 17,500 aren't worried about spelling. About time for the UK to do something similar, don't you think?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 24 Dec, 2014 11:35 pm
Hello taggers. By all means ignore what is going on in Germany. Nothing wrong with an Islamic Europe. Nothing wrong with turning your backs on freedom. Nope.

But why we are at it, tell me what possible good is in more Islamic rule? Beside the obvious violence that comes with Islam. Can you imagine the quality of life for non-Muslims. You can look to Africa to see how that is going.

Give me some concrete evidence this is not a serious problem. Tell me if I have missed the Muslims actually stopping any of this crap. Not condemning, and apologizing. I'll wait.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 01:05 am
@coldjoint,
Well, those people are indeed worried about the 0.1% Muslims in their city.
The dominating mosque in Dresden was ... actually built as cigarette factory in the 19th century and houses a museum and offices.

But what can you expect from a predominately (80%) non-religious population?

Did you read about the combined Jewish, Christian and Muslim demonstration there as well? To quote the chairman of the German Council of Jews: "These demonstrations are immensely dangerous," he said. "Here, neo-Nazis, parties from the far-right and citizens who think that they can finally let out their racism and xenophobia are all mixed together."

I don't think that all of them are neo-Nazis. The leaders are partly plus a couple of criminals. It's very similar to time when the SA started.
But fortunately, most of us remember
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


But carry on with your racism and xenophobic rabble rousing. Perhaps your Reich will come at least where you live.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 01:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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But carry on with your racism and xenophobic rabble rousing.


Carry on with your denial. And remember that Islamists are the new Nazis, only worse.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 04:52 am
@coldjoint,
I think Walter's post is a bit more credible pinky. Sorry but you've got Glenn Beck DNA on your face.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 25 Dec, 2014 07:20 pm
@farmerman,
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I think Walter's post is a bit more credible pinky.


Funny, he did not say the number of people attending his demonstration. And the tired excuse that people trying to protect their culture and religion are Nazis. And where is Wallys' source?

In this case there are people trying to inflict their religion with intimidation, bought politicians, and violence. Islam, again, are the Nazis. And you, like Wally, have neither the smarts or the guts to admit it.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 12:30 pm
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An Ipsos survey found that 66% of French people believe there are too many foreigners in France, and 59% believe "immigrants do not try hard enough to integrate. According to the poll, 63% of French people think that Islam "is not compatible with French values."


Something else to ignore.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4978/france-islamization
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 01:16 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
And where is Wallys' source?
Registry office of Dresden and State Statistic Office of Saxony.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 01:22 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
And the tired excuse that people trying to protect their culture and religion are Nazis.
Those people aren't trying to protect their religion - people trying to do so attend the counter demonstration by the Jewish Community, Catholic and Evangelical Church.

I do admit, though that the numbers there (about 5,000 in Dresden) are outnumbered by the 17,500 at the same time by Pegida. But then, 80% of Dresden's population is without religion (Saxony 75%, because it includes the very religious Sorbs)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 01:24 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
In this case there are people trying to inflict their religion with intimidation, bought politicians, and violence. Islam, again, are the Nazis. And you, like Wally, have neither the smarts or the guts to admit it.
I don't think that all are Nazis. The leaders are known Nazis and convicted criminals.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 01:47 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
In this case there are people trying to inflict their religion with intimidation, bought politicians, and violence.
Thinking a bit about it, this really is especially interesting against the background of Dresden:
- Christianised in the 9th century,
- Catholic until 1521/1539,
- Evangelical since then (with heavy 'battles' against Reformed Churches until the end of the 18th century - Catholics were just ex-patriated, Reformed Christian send to prison, as minimum sentence)
- from 1948/9 onwards, 90+% Atheists
- today 17% Evangelicals (Evangelical-Lutheran Church of Saxony) and 4% Catholics, about 1,500 Jews.
In Dresden, you've got 84 Christian churches, one large synagogue, one mosque.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:07 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Catholic until 1521/1539,

Quote:
Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.12.25 (Benghazi, Libya) - Six people are beheaded, and fourteen others shot by Islamists.
2014.12.24 (Madain, Iraq) - At least forty Iraqis are exterminated by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.12.22 (Bauchi, Nigeria) - Religion of Peace bombers hit a market at closing time, killing at least eight innocents.
2014.12.22 (Nantes, France) - One person is left clinically dead when yet another man shouting Allah Akbar plunges his car into a Christmas market.
2014.12.22 (Gombe, Nigeria) - Sharia proponents detonate a bomb at a bus station, sending shrapnel through dozens of bystanders.
2014.12.20 (Tikrit, Iraq) - Women and children are among seventeen Iraqis executed in their homes by caliphate members.

* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.


Who gives a **** about 1521 or 1948? This killing and terror in the name of Islam is happening today.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:21 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Who gives a **** about 1521 or 1948?
You started this thread and the discussion here with 'Dresden'.
And you wrote:"there are people trying to inflict their religion with intimidation, bought politicians, and violence."

That's all I was referring to.

And I tried, certainly in vain, to explain a bit about the religious background in Dresden and of the persons, attending these demonstrations and the counter-demonstrations - referring to your "people trying to protect their culture and religion are Nazis".
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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You started this thread and the discussion here with 'Dresden'.


The location of the protest really makes no difference. The discussion is about the cancer in Europe(and the rest of the world)called Islam. And that a very substantial number are letting their government, and the world know. That you deflected the real topic is the usual bullshit from those who refuse to accept reality.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Jürgen Bachmann, the organiser of the here talked about demonstration, was convicted several times, spend some years in prison, fled to South Africa to avoid another conviction, is now out of prison on probation (last conviction was about owning and using cocaine and other drugs)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Jürgen Bachmann, the organiser


Source?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:50 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The location of the protest really makes no difference. The discussion is about the cancer in Europe
Okay. So we can disregard your entry post
http://i60.tinypic.com/qqzarr.jpg

Generally spoke, what are your profound own experiences about the religions and the religious situation in Europe?

You are a native American, I understand. How did your nation deal with all the invading Europeans and the forced-on Christianity? You didn't object to the destruction of your religion and culture, I suppose?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 26 Dec, 2014 02:52 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Okay. So we can disregard your entry post


You are deflecting again. You can disregard whatever you want, Wally. It wont change the serious problem Islam is, and you know it.
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