The Obvious

@Walter Hinteler,

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But sine you're here: the first refugee already was murdered in Dresden - which certainly will please you.

Why would that please me? My awareness of Islam is to stop violence and hate which is what Islam teaches. You really shouldn't judge my character by your lack of it.

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@coldjoint,

Well, you wrote here on A2K that you would be pleased, if Mosques were burnt down in France. A killed Muslim refugee is just one, I know, but ...

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@Walter Hinteler,

The PEGIDA movement is, of course while "German culture ...", etc, against the local Sorbs. As were the Nazis, who tried to "Germanise" them.
But not only their language is an official language in Saxony (and recognised minority language in the federal republic), the Sorbs lived their before anyone thought of Saxony, be it Free State like today, kingdom, dukedom or whatever.

I do have some problems which such an attitude.

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@Walter Hinteler,

But seriously, this is the worst case scenario for PEGIDA: the whole country knows what happened here on Monday evenings. Since weeks thousands "concerned citizens" are protest against alleged "Islamisation of the West". And now, on a Monday evening, a Muslim refugee has been murdered not far away from where those demonstrations are.

Not only refugees but any foreigner now has "fear in the eyes" as the local paper headlined.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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But seriously, this is the worst case scenario for PEGIDA:

It will not affect the growing numbers of people who are beginning to realize Islam is dangerous, intolerant, violent and incompatible with freedom. And do you know why?

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@coldjoint,

Yes, the prosecution and police are already investigating.

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Section 211
Murder under specific aggravating circumstances

(1) Whosoever commits murder under the conditions of this provision shall be liable to imprisonment for life.

(2) A murderer under this provision is any person who kills a person for pleasure, for sexual gratification, out of greed or otherwise base motives, by stealth or cruelly or by means that pose a danger to the public or in order to facilitate or to cover up another offence.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Irrelevant. The subject here is Germany being so obviously terrified of Islam. Starting with it leaders. And that ordinary people now exposed to Islams intolerance is growing like the Salafists.

That you try so hard to deny that shows how bad off Germany is.

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/memef2d1e9c494451458.jpg

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Well, France does so. Even the Muslim, who worked in that Jewish supermarket, gets French citizenship.

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@Walter Hinteler,

This not about one person Wally.

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@coldjoint,

To be honest: I liked Pat Condell comedy shows very much, although I don't share his anti-religious and atheist propaganda.
That stopped, when he supported Geert Wilders (which was before he joined UKIP).

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@Walter Hinteler,

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For the useful idiot, multiculturalism is supposedly aimed at ecumenicalism and hopes to diminish difference by inclusiveness and non-judgmentalism. But mostly it is a narcissistic fit, in which the multiculturalist offers a cheap rationalization of non-Western pathologies, and thereby anoints himself both the moral superior to his own less critical Western peers and, in condescending fashion, the self-appointed advocate of the mostly incapable non-Westerner.

Multiculturalism is contrary to human nature. Supposedly if Muslims understand that Westerners do not associate an epidemic of global terrorism and suicide bombing with Islam, then perhaps Muslims — seeing concession as magnanimity to be reciprocated — will appreciate such outreach and help to mitigate the violence, all the more so if they also sense that they share with the more radical among them at least some legitimate gripes against the West.

Do you like being useful? Wilders has the right idea. Stop Muslim immigration and enforce the rule of law, not Sharia law.

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/multicultural-suicide/?singlepage=true

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

Do you like being useful? Wilders has the right idea.

I don't support but fight Nazis.
(What I do admit, though, is that Wilders has overtaken Goebbels rhetoric possibilities.)

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@Walter Hinteler,

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I don't support but fight Nazis.

You apologizing for Islam is the same thing as supporting Nazis. You like pictures Wally?

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjoXULlUyqIARyQlnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBsa3ZzMnBvBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?_adv_prop=image&fr=yhs-mozilla-001&va=islam%2FNazism&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

You apologizing for Islam is the same thing as supporting Nazis. You like pictures Wally?

I don't apologise a religion, any religion.
And you are really as worse as the worst Nazi criminals.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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And you are really as worse as the worst Nazi criminals.

This is not about me Wally. You seem to be getting upset. We are coming up on 100th the anniversary of the Armenian genocide. Do you know that act was the inspiration for Hitlers final solution? Islam and Nazism are hard to separate in ideology and violence

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

Do you know that act was the inspiration for Hitlers final solution?

It really seems that you usually write in German since we don't have a possessive ending -'s but what is called "Saxon genitive" would look like Hitler's Final Solution.)

No. According to what I know, this came up in Himmler's department around May 1940. But since this is called "Final Solution to the Jewish Question" (31 July, 1941), you might refer to something else.
Your expert's knowledge always surprises me as well as your deep knowledge not only of German but of German history and culture as well!

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@Walter Hinteler,

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No. According to what I know, this came up in Himmler's department around May 1940.

And one of his consultants was the Grand Mufti of Palestine. And Hitler did comment on the genocide. He said the world just watched and did nothing. He was hoping for the same reaction.

But the marches in Germany are not history. And the deaths in Paris are very recent history. Your head seems to be squarely up your ass, Wally.

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@Walter Hinteler,

But even the "Middle East Quarterly - Promoting American Interests" only writes: "Diverse historical evidence suggests that Hitler viewed the Armenians and Poles as analogous."

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

But the marches in Germany are not history. And the deaths in Paris are very recent history.

They organisers of the PEGIDA-marches will take legal action against a German satyr magazine because they published a satyr about those marches.

I don't hope similar will happen as in Paris!

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