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1 in 5 women get raped?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 05:01 pm
@BillRM,
Well I did a fast google search and come up with something a lot lot less then full rapes with a pointed object into a student rectum and bag therefore needed afterward. The best lies have some truth behind them.

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http://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2014/10/10/charged-sayreville-football-hazing-case/17075723/

The complaints charge that on various dates between Sept. 19 and Sept. 29 one or more of the players either held the victims against their will, while others improperly touched the victims in a sexual manner.

It also is charged that in one instance, one of the victims was kicked during an attack.

Thillet's mother, Madeline, said during last week's contentious school board meeting, during which dozens of players and their parents protested Labbe's decision to shut down the football program, "I was at the police station with him when they were questioning him. They were talking about a butt being grabbed. That's about it. No one was hurt. No one died. I don't understand why they're being punished."

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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 06:22 pm
@wmwcjr,
What young men are doing to other young men during frat hazing isn't terrific either.

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College fraternities under fire for hazing, offensive behavior
By Mark Pace - The Washington Times
October 12, 2014

A University of Southern Mississippi sophomore faces grand larceny charges after a fraternity scavenger hunt resulted in the death of two Chilean flamingos at the Hattiesburg Zoo. The Texas Tech chapter of Phi Delta Theta lost its charter after displaying a banner at a September party that is unfit for print. Clemson University last month suspended all social activities for some two dozen fraternities following the August death of a student and what officials say are a “high number” of incidents “ranging from alcohol-related medical emergencies to sexual misconduct.”

The incidents range from the weird to the crude to the fatal, but they’re fueling a growing debate about the role of fraternities in college life and sparking a backlash on at least some campuses against Greek life.

More than 60 people have died since 2005 in fraternity-related incidents, according to Bloomberg Data, and more than 70 colleges and universities are under investigation after accusations that the institutions improperly handled sexual assault cases.

Citing cases of alcohol abuse, sexual and racial harassment and hazing, some small liberal arts schools have already banned fraternities altogether, including Middlebury College and Colby College. Connecticut’s Wesleyan College sparked headlines last month when it announced it was forcing the school’s three residential fraternities to go co-ed. Dartmouth College, whose fraternities helped inspire the movie “Animal House,” recently mandated the end of pledge season, the source for many hazing incidents.

“To improve their situation, [fraternities need to] eliminate, or at least reduce as much as possible, these violent and sexist images and any behavior that goes along with them,” said Alan Reifman, a professor of human development and family studies at Texas Tech. “That would be a major step to improve the situation.”

The offensive banner was not the only serious incident involving fraternities at the Lubbock, Texas, school.

Police responding to noise complaints at a house near Texas Tech the weekend before classes began early last month found a party full of college students celebrating before their first day of classes, many of whom were underage. The police left, but they returned a few hours later. This time, the call was more serious.

Dalton Debrick, an 18-year-old freshman rushing the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity, was found dead at the off-campus party. The cause of death was later determined to be acute alcohol intoxication. The fraternity was closed on the Texas Tech campus for a minimum of four years.

A Penn State student committed suicide after being hazed by members of Phi Sigma Kappa. His parents found pictures on his phone of a man blindfolded with a gun to his head, and they also found messages explaining that pledges had to choose between penetrating themselves with a sex toy or snorting cocaine, according to Bloomberg. The chapter was suspended for six years.

“I see not only our campus but all campuses struggling with the question around the direction the fraternities need to take, and how that will fit in with the overall institution of the school,” said Michael Laliberte, vice chancellor for student affairs at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

Ban fraternities?

Fraternity defenders say anecdotal evidence tends to overstate the role the all-male societies play in the problems that face all colleges and universities. Most fraternity brothers do not get caught in disciplinary problems, must answer to campus overseers and their national chartering organization and tend to be more loyal — and generous — to their school once they graduate.

Banning organized on-campus fraternities, they argue, and the drinking, socializing and other mischief that college students engage in will simply move to off-campus, unregulated sites, making the problem even worse.

Bans “don’t accomplish anything,” Thomas Fox, national executive director of Psi Upsilon, told the publication Inside Higher Ed recently.

“The problems that fraternities and sororities [entail] exist outside of the Greek system as well. We offer educational opportunities to help combat these issues and have alumni volunteers to help mentor our members. When done right, we are complementing the academic mission of the institutions where we exist,” he said.

Peter Smithhisler, president and chief executive officer of the umbrella North American Interfraternity Conference, said it has become “increasingly fashionable to denigrate the college fraternity experience as little more than an organized excuse to misbehave.”

In a blog post this spring, Mr. Smithhisler argued that fraternities must do a better job of policing themselves — and highlight the charitable and social work they do — if they want to counter a rising anti-fraternity tide. Among his recommendations: Eliminate hazing, enforce drinking restrictions and regularly self-assess the health of each house.

“If we intend to preserve all that is right with today’s fraternity movement, we must improve our efforts to address that which is wrong,” he wrote.

But some independent research points to troubling signs related to Greek life and culture. Two studies in 2007 and 2009 by NASPA, the professional group for student affairs administrators in higher education, found that fraternity members were three times as likely to commit rape as the average college student and twice as likely to engage in binge drinking and other problem activities.

Most see eliminating Greek organizations at big public schools, where there may be dozens of sororities and fraternities with thousands of members, as unrealistic. But how to temper the abuses while saving the system remains a major challenge.

While there are certainly fraternities involved in inappropriate and extreme behavior, there are unmistakable benefits that fraternities bring to campuses. The question is whether the bad is starting to outweigh the good.

“Overall, I would say that [fraternities] are very positive,” the University of Wisconsin’s Mr. Laliberte said.

Mr. Reifman said that the fraternity question must be examined on a “house-by-house” basis, but he added that there are certainly houses and chapters making a major positive impact on their community and institution.

Fraternities such as Alpha Sigma Phi are giving presentations on sexual assault prevention as well as how to behave during social events. At Indiana University, Alpha Sigma Phi and 20 other fraternities released statements condemning sexual assault.

Zeta Beta Tau brothers at George Washington University raised $17,000 for the Children’s Miracle Network last year, and they are also educating members about inappropriate behavior.

“We worked together to provide programming for our members, which included teaching them about safe dating practices and what to look for among friends when they’re facing situations that may be uncomfortable for them,” Daniel Egel-Weiss, president of Zeta Beta Tau, said.

Mr. Egel-Weiss said his chapter has never had an instance of inappropriate behavior since it was established on the George Washington campus in 2007. He also said most fraternities don’t have instances of such actions, but the instances that do happen point “to mismanagement of the individual fraternity chapter rather than fraternity culture.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/12/colleges-fraternities-under-fire-for-hazing-deaths/?page=all


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CSUN fraternity shuts down after pledge's death during hazing
By Caitlin Owens, Ruben Vives
Sept 5, 2014

Piled onto sleeping bags, they looked dehydrated and lacked cellphones. About a mile down the road, one member of the group, Cal State Northridge student Armando Villa, 19, lay barefoot and blistered in a ditch.

A hiker who had come across the men watched as a firefighter began administering CPR until Villa was airlifted to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Villa's death July 1 shocked the college community, and for two months, the other Pi Kappa Phi pledges who took part in the event that day have revealed little about what happened.

But on Friday, Cal State Northridge administrators released the results of a university investigation that concluded the fraternity had engaged in hazing and that Villa and other pledges ran out of water well before finishing a mandatory hike for students hoping to join the fraternity.

School President Dianne F. Harrison announced that the fraternity was shutting down its campus chapter after voting this week to withdraw from the university.

"Hazing is stupid, senseless, it is dangerous and it is against the law in California," Harrison, said. "It is a vestige of toxic thinking in which somehow it is OK to degrade, to humiliate and potentially harm others....It will not be tolerated."...
http://www.latimes.com/

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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 06:31 pm
@wmwcjr,
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Males Are More Likely To Suffer Sexual Assault Than To Be Falsely Accused Of It
12/08/2014
by Tyler Kingkade

In the aftermath of Rolling Stone's flawed story about an alleged gang rape at the University of Virginia, there has been a rush of concern in certain quarters over the supposed male victims. People have been claiming that Jackie, the UVa student at the center of the story, is part of a trend in false rape reports.

The idea that women are deceptively "crying rape" is not something new. But besides misrepresenting what we know about Jackie's case -- no one with knowledge of the alleged incident has stated that an assault did not happen and the Charlottesville, Virginia, police told HuffPost that they're still investigating -- it misses two key truths.

False rape reports are rare. And the men and boys who are victims in sexual assault cases are far more likely to have been the targets of abuse themselves than to have been falsely accused of sexual violence.
According to a 2010 paper from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, about 40 percent of gay men, 47 percent of bisexual men and 21 percent of heterosexual men in the U.S. "have experienced sexual violence other than rape at some point in their lives."

A compilation of research at 1in6.org, an advocacy group for male survivors, suggests that at least 1 in 6 boys experience sexual abuse before age 18. The key caveat: The numbers are likely higher in reality because male victims are less likely to disclose their abuse than female victims.

False accusations that men committed rape look to be far less common.

David Lisak, a leading sexual assault researcher and consultant to colleges and the military, has found false rape reports to be about 8 percent of the total. An analysis of research on false rape claims by Lisak, San Diego police Sgt. Joanne Archambault and Kimberly Lonesway at the National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women put the figure somewhere between 2 and 8 percent. Yet another study from the Crown Prosecution Service in the United Kingdom concluded that false reports constituted about 6 percent of rape allegations. Twenty-year-old data from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics put the number of unfounded rape reports at 8 percent, thought not all unfounded reports are necessarily false.

How that percentage might change if women felt more comfortable reporting sexual assault is unclear. But many never report what happened to them. A Department of Justice study from 2000 found that fewer than 5 percent of completed and attempted rapes of collegiate women are reported to police, and that figure drops for other forms of sexual violence.

"This is where we need to be careful that we don't just let the squeaky wheel get the grease," said Lisa Maatz, vice president of government relations at the American Association of University Women.

The fact that sexual assault against males is more common than false accusations of males committing sexual assault is "ironic," Maatz said, but she noted this is why Title IX, the federal law that requires colleges to deal with sexual violence and harassment, is gender-neutral.

"Title IX is supposed to improve the climate and ensure anyone who goes to college has the same opportunity at an education," Maatz said. "That to me is what colleges are all about. I wish colleges could understand this is a tool that they should be embracing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/08/false-rape-accusations_n_6290380.html
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 08:09 pm
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Rolling Stone presented Jackie’s story as a powerful symbol for how rape victims are denied justice across America. When it was revealed that the magazine had torpedoed itself, Jackie, and UVA in its negligent reporting, it gave anti-rape activists the opportunity to disavow the false framework that Jackie is somehow emblematic of victims everywhere. Instead, many doubled down. Under the hashtags #IStandWithJackie and #IBelieveJackie, feminists lent their support for Jackie’s story, noting that certain aspects of her experience resonate with the way that other rape victims have been shamed and disbelieved. “We know institutions will bring their power to bear to obfuscate sexual violence. That's why we stand with survivors. #IBelieveJackie,” the National Alliance to End Sexual Violence tweeted. By using Jackie’s individual story, which was already coming under legitimate scrutiny, to reinforce the movement’s broader narrative about how sexual assault operates, and boosting the message with activist hashtags, they bet the big story on the strength of one anecdote. That’s a mistake.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/12/11/_istandwithjackie_and_the_feminist_response_to_the_unraveling_of_rolling.html

No **** sherlock, a blatant statement that you dont care about what the truth is will kill a movement faster than anything else. This is especially true when critics have for years been claiming that you dont care about the truth, that you are off on an hysterical witch hunt.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2014 08:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
I wonder Hawkeye if they are going to now claimed that Crystal Mangum was indeed gang raped and that drove her to later murder her boyfriend or for that matter Sharpton was right an a whole group of high power white men did gang raped Tawana Brawley.

Can you just picture how fair of a hearing any male student will get at UVA if charge with any misdeed by a woman.

The evidence and comment sense will not matter as it is all in the feelings of the poor "victim".

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nononono
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 06:43 am
@FOUND SOUL,
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As a man, if you were repeatedly raped by another man, would you prefer to be dead?


No. I would be angry as ******* hell, but I would use that anger to rebuild my life.

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No one deserves to be raped.


True.

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Women are targets by men, you wonder why women of this Century learn to fight.


That's not a complete picture of the story. You see, privileged, wealthy, white women are the single biggest purveyors of the victim narrative. They sit in their comfortable homes (largely paid for by their husbands), drinking their lattes, playing around on their iPhones (of which they could never conceive the idea of why an invention/innovation such as this works the way it does, yet they have zero problem reaping the benefit of this creation by the very "nerds" that they have deemed unworthy or their romantic attention.)

It's all about privilege. It's all about a victim narrative. And nothing screams this more than middle to upper class white women claiming to be victimized by those goddamn "misogynist" men!

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We are the weaker sex where strength is concerned


If you ever said this to a feminist, you would be denounced as a heretic, because according to feminists sexual dimorphism does not exist. Gender is a social construct. Women are just as physically strong as men are! So to claim otherwise is sexist!
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 12:32 pm
@nononono,
nononono wrote:

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As a man, if you were repeatedly raped by another man, would you prefer to be dead?


No. I would be angry as ******* hell, but I would use that anger to rebuild my life.

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No one deserves to be raped.


True.

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Women are targets by men, you wonder why women of this Century learn to fight.


That's not a complete picture of the story. You see, privileged, wealthy, white


women are the single biggest purveyors of the victim narrative. They sit in their comfortable homes (largely paid for by their husbands), drinking their lattes, playing around on their iPhones (of which they could never conceive the idea of why an invention/innovation such as this works the way it does, yet they have zero problem reaping the benefit of this creation by the very "nerds" that they have deemed unworthy or their romantic attention.)


It's all about privilege. It's all about a victim narrative. And nothing screams this more than middle to upper class white women claiming to be victimized by those goddamn "misogynist" men!

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We are the weaker sex where strength is concerned




If you ever said this to a feminist, you would be denounced as a heretic, because according to feminists sexual dimorphism does not exist. Gender is a social construct. Women are just as physically strong as men are! So to claim otherwise is sexist!


I'm just curious, did you learn this bullshit at asshole college, or were you born this way. It can't be easy to consistently dream up all these ridiculous scenarios, you are either intentionally fabricating this drivel, or you are outrageously delusional. If it's the latter, you need to be in treatment.

If you are trying provoke women you characterize as "white", you are wasting your time. It's almost pathetic. Are you hoping someone will say something racist? Or accuse you of being a racist? You are just another simpering rape apologist, nothing more. The other women posting here are incredibly patient with you, I admire their patience. But I only see you as rude, obnoxious male with unresolved adolescent issues. But if you feel manly acting like a raging stupid jerk, I'm not interested in helping you to mature. Frankly, I just don't see you progressing at all, ever. You make yourself look foolish.

firefly
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:05 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
You know, Foundy, I'm not sure how the females here should respond to the continual anti-female sexist statements coming from nononono. The latest one is racist and classist as well.
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You see, privileged, wealthy, white women are the single biggest purveyors of the victim narrative. They sit in their comfortable homes (largely paid for by their husbands), drinking their lattes, playing around on their iPhones (of which they could never conceive the idea of why an invention/innovation such as this works the way it does, yet they have zero problem reaping the benefit of this creation by the very "nerds" that they have deemed unworthy or their romantic attention.)

It's all about privilege. It's all about a victim narrative. And nothing screams this more than middle to upper class white women claiming to be victimized by those goddamn "misogynist" men!

Do you sit around in your comfortable home, that you don't monetarily contribute to, drinking your lattes, and claiming you are being victimized by misogynist men? I don't think so. I know I don't, and I don't think glitterbag does either. In fact, I don't think that describes any woman at A2K I know of, and it's a description that's rather insulting to all of the women at A2K--particularly white women--particularly middle class women, which most of us here are.

And, of course, in nononono's warped mind, we, as females, don't contribute to the labor force, or to family incomes, and none of us are well educated enough that we can understand how an iphone works--we're mainly privileged airheads, supported entirely by men, who sit around drinking lattes complaining about being "victimized".

Is nononono saying that we females have no right to be concerned about rape, or to negatively view those individuals who commit rape? And, at the moment, those doing the most, and loudest, complaining on campuses, and in the military, and in the case of Bill Cosby, are women who have been the targets of sexual assault/rape--are even those women entitled to say they feel they have been "victimized" by a criminal assault? Or are they "too privileged" to be entitled to a voice as well? Are they all pushing a fictional "victim narrative" without a definite basis in reality?

nononono is a very angry man with a rather contemptuous view of women, all women. He's also racist and classist. He's a bigot. And the irony is that, while he rants about how he feels men, as a group, are negatively regarded and characterized, he seems to be unaware he spews forth sexist and bigoted statements about women all the time. It's not right when either men or women engage in such gender bigotry.

In reality, women at A2K are not bashing men as a group, or negatively stereotyping them, or complaining about being victimized by them, or considering them to all be misogynists. If there are any "man-haters" around here, I haven't come across them, and I don't think you have either.

So, I'm not sure how the females here should respond to the continual anti-female sexist statements coming from nononono, and, at times, from Hawkeye and BillRM as well. Ignore them? Fight back? Try reasoning with them? Start a separate thread on the topic?








izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:11 pm
@firefly,
Nonono wants a sugar daddy, he's just jealous.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:21 pm
@glitterbag,
You and I are in agreement about how we view nononono.
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I'm just curious, did you learn this bullshit at asshole college, or were you born this way.

He picks up his views, and the idiosyncratic language they use (like "gynocentric thinking" and the way he uses "bigot", etc.), and most of his arguments, straight off the alleged men's rights activists sites. He drinks their Kool Aid by the bucketful. He's not smart enough to think things through on his own.

I admire your patience in continuing to tell him off. Should we continue to do that, or should we just ignore his posts, and deprive him of the attention he's seeking?
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:26 pm
@izzythepush,
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Nonono wants a sugar daddy, he's just jealous.

I think he really wants to be a woman as well--he's extremely jealous of women and doesn't seem to enjoy being a man.

Perhaps he should consider gender transitioning....
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:34 pm
@firefly,
He's definitely not a happy bunny.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 01:59 pm
@nononono,
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No. I would be angry as ******* hell, but I would use that anger to rebuild my life.


So a weaker person, may consider dying and a stronger person would choice to live, no question about it but build his life with so much anger inside. Imagine that life and those who choose to share it with him. What a life. Welcome to how a woman feels being raped. Angry. Fn angry whilst she tries to re-build her life, a life she never had to try to re-build if it wasn't for some jerk thinking he could take.

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That's not a complete picture of the story. You see, privileged, wealthy, white women are the single biggest purveyors of the victim narrative. They sit in their comfortable homes (largely paid for by their husbands), drinking their lattes, playing around on their iPhones (of which they could never conceive the idea of why an invention/innovation such as this works the way it does, yet they have zero problem reaping the benefit of this creation by the very "nerds" that they have deemed unworthy or their romantic attention.)

It's all about privilege. It's all about a victim narrative. And nothing screams this more than middle to upper class white women claiming to be victimized by those goddamn "misogynist" men!




That's not the complete picture in-deed. It's my understanding in any event a Feminist believes in equality pertaining to everything in life. She would have to go to the gym to build her body, go and learn Kung Fu to know how to handle the strength of a male, to be equal in her mind/eyes to the strength of a male but she would then be equal.

Nerds. So you are talking about the "princesses" of the World and they come in many shades of colour but you can bet they put out because they want to continue that lifestyle.

Where as a white middle classed woman, (waving) amongst so many other women on this Forum and FF is correct do I put you down? Do I have a distaste for all men on A2K? Am I a man hater? In any event. We work, worked, work, contribute believe in equality and like to get spoilt as a princess just here and there because we can. Mind you, we do the same back as well, because we can and hey all is "equal" in love.

Have you experienced this constantly and directly? Or is it movies that gives you this notion of us white women?

D works two jobs, I work two jobs, both of us own our businesses, shirt I'm onto a third which stems from the core of my business, sometimes 12hrs a day is not un-usual in-fact that happens at least two to three times a week for both of us. We sip our chardonnay, sit down and talk about our day, cook dinner and ohnono we even have sex....

See you can not, can not categorize people, though you can use that terminology on "princesses" certainly, that's all they are after they have a hidden agenda all they want is riches in life by using their looks.

No difference than a male who is good looking using his "charm" to score 100 women notably in bed, then tell face-book all about it laughing right down to how he scored his first one. Why no different? Because both have an agenda and neither is in the favour of the other person, only themselves.. The husband you described one day is going to feel un-loved and move on, such is life or he'll just watch porn and keep his wife, after all according to you he's a nerd so I doubt he would start playing the field..

Off course that then brings me to those women that marry for love heard of that ? Smile He has money, as you describe but he's not a nerd.. And, off he goes having mistresses, takes women as many as he can, with our without their permission shirt Cosby comes back into this Smile

Honestly it's disrespectful to rant over 1 type of "person" when the World is made up by many.
nononono
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 02:23 pm
@firefly,
firefly, you're an idiot.

The fact is that men work more and pay more taxes than women do. But don't take my word for it, listen to renown feminist professor, Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers!




And woman are almost exclusively the only ones who are allowed "sugar daddys". And that's because of hypergamy, which is an almost exclusively female trait. Women choose of their own free will to almost on mass, reject men who make less money than they do. You can't blame me for that!


And feminism, which is an ideology based on a victim narrative (which is meant to camouflage the true nature of what feminism is, which is weaponized hatred of men.) WAS CREATED AS A CONCEPT BY UPPER CLASS WHITE WOMEN.

So now I'm bigoted simply because I know my history? Simply because I understand social science in regards to human nature? Drunk

Why should I be surprised? You are idiotic.
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nononono
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 02:45 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
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whilst she tries to re-build her life, a life she never had to try to re-build if it wasn't for some jerk thinking he could take.


But FS, people having their lives altered through the bad actions of others is not a gendered issue. These things happen to both men and women. And in fact men are more likely to be victims of violence statistically than women are.

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D works two jobs, I work two jobs, both of us own our businesses, shirt I'm onto a third which stems from the core of my business, sometimes 12hrs a day is not un-usual in-fact that happens at least two to three times a week for both of us. We sip our chardonnay, sit down and talk about our day, cook dinner and ohnono we even have sex....


There are exceptions to almost every rule in life. But, exceptions to rules existing do not disprove the rules themselves. Any person studying anything makes generalizations. Zoologists in Africa make generalizations in regards to lions and tigers behavior based on patterns they've observed. The reason they do this is for their own safety!

Human beings are no different. Both males and females display clearly visible patterns of behavior in general. Of course there are some males and females that deviate from these patterns, but they do not disprove the patterns. Just like how there are albino people that exist. They are statistically rare. But simply because they exist does not disprove that human beings generally have pigment in their skin. Does that make more sense to you?


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Honestly it's disrespectful to rant over 1 type of "person" when the World is made up by many.


I hope my above comments have better explained your misinterpretation of my points. Please think about what I've said carefully.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 02:53 pm
@firefly,
Actually it's very sad. If he really has all that twisted ugly crap in his head he must be living a miserable existence. Men this angry find it difficult to have conversations or to make friends. The internet gives these losers an opportunity to encounter women, and their assumption is they can intimidate, shock, offend or somehow dominate women online because they can't do it in real life.

I truly admire you and Found Soul for your optimistic and helpful attitude. Both of you have patiently tried to appeal to their sense of fairness and you treat them as if they are adults. I actually don't anger easily, I seldom assume when speaking to people that they are willfully disrespectful or attempting to insult me.

Years ago, I would occasionally cross paths with a man at work, I never really knew his name but we would sometimes be in working conferences. These conferences would occur in our compound and involved different organizations. So, I would say hello when I saw him, he would nod. The first time he spoke to me was as he entered the elevator, and exclaimed "OMG what that thing on your lapel, it was a stick pin with a sea shell on the top, he said "it looks like a human ear, he seemed revolted". I wasn't upset, or insulted or took any offense. The next encounter was when I foolishly agreed to bring in balloons for an office birthday party. I hadn't thought it thru so on this particular morning I have a crap load of balloons in my car, which was irritating, but when I got out of the car and gathered the balloons, I suddenly realized I'm a grown women in a suit and 4 inch heels walking across a parking lot with a bunch of balloons bobbing above me. I started to feel very foolish, I knew how silly it must look like so as I approached the gatehouse I ran into angry man again, and judging by his astonished look on his face, I decided to own it and just said. "I know,,,,I look foolish", he curtly responded "yes, you certainly do", so I'm still not angry or upset, I gave him the straight line, he decided to take it. Now, you have to understand, I didn't really know this guy, wasn't aware of anything I may have done to annoy him, we had never had any conversations, but it's clear he does not care for me (but who cares). The third encounter was while my group and his group were waiting for a conference room to be unlocked (another multi mission meeting). I realized he was next to me so when I turned to acknowledge him, I noticed he was wearing a very handsome tie and I said "Oh, that's a beautiful tie, you look very nice", he responded with "Thanks, I wish I could say the same about you", I countered with "Oh you could if you were as big a bullshitter as I am" he was a little shocked, his team mates laughed and I'm still not angry. I don't know why he behaved as he did, but it ended there.

I could be upset if I disappointed or angered a friend or a colleague I respected. But when you deal with people who think courtesy is a sign of weakness, they assume they have some sort of power. But courtesy simply defines who you are, their rude behaviour defines them. So, these angry rape apologists are not really here to defend a mindset, they are here to up the ante because they are desperate to dominate. It must really suck to be one of those 4 losers.
nononono
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 02:58 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag, literally the only thing you do in your posts regarding me, is straw man attack me by misrepresenting my points and making unfounded generalizations about myself and any men who disagree with a popular narrative.


According to you, ANY man who disagrees with the feminist narrative is a "rape apologist". Drunk


You are clearly of very low intelligence.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 03:07 pm
@nononono,
In all of equality.

Let's just state then, the weaker person has difficulty coping, the stronger person somehow supresses it and moves on.. So "she tries to re-build" refers to me visualising the long term suffering that does occur, 100% does occur as you point out, regardless of gender. So, in that, 20 years can pass nononono before someone starts crying, remembering having tried to forget.

I don't think that it's an exception at all. That's my opinion. It's that the World is made up of different people end of story and in that, morals. And, good and evil for that matter. This is the "one" thing that Cosby did right though he should have preached to the World in any colour.. Education, morals, respect, non thieving. But then, he stripped that speech onto each woman he raped.

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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 03:32 pm
@nononono,
nononono wrote:

glitterbag, literally the only thing you do in your posts regarding me, is straw man attack me by misrepresenting my points and making unfounded generalizations about myself and any men who disagree with a popular narrative.


According to you, ANY man who disagrees with the feminist narrative is a "rape apologist". Drunk


You are clearly of very low intelligence.







I don't know what the feminist agenda is and I missed the memo declaring Dr. Somners Queen of all women. The only time you show up is when someone starts a discussion on rape, domestic violence or Bill Cosbeys accusers and you cannot speak on any other issue than mean women are keeping men down.

You, are a certifiable fool.

By the way, you don't how to use 'straw man' .
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2014 07:54 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
. . . I missed the memo declaring Dr. Somners Queen of all women.


The memo is wrong. Dr. Somners is Queen of all rape apologists.



Wait! I just received an update! Dr. Somners has been dethroned! Now the currently reigning Queen of all rape apologists is none other than George Will!

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/GeorgeWill.jpg

(He looks so manly hiding around that corner! I'm a-scared!)




Please forgive me! Crying or Very sad I just had to play the clown!
 

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