PDid, Jumping the gun is folly; especially in politics. blatham brings up a good point about the young generation getting involved with Dean's campaign. That's a positive most people miss - both young and old.
nimh wrote:Eh, funny PD. But - Independents could vote in the NH Republican primaries, too, no - even ones that registered as such on the very day of the elections, did I get that right? So that could just have been a deliberate bit of Independent trolling ...
There really wasn't any conceivable reason for an Independent in NH to write in a Democrat on a Republican ballot when he could simply vote in the Democratic primary...
Quote:Under New Hampshire law, only Democrats and independents were permitted to participate in Tuesday's Democratic presidential primary. That meant that Republicans who wanted to register their opposition to Bush had to do so in their own party's primary. A remarkable number of them did just that.
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US Senator John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, who won the Democratic primary, came in second to Bush in the Republican contest, winning 3,009 votes. Kerry's name was written in on almost 5 percent of all GOP ballots. Who were these Republican renegades for Kerry? People like 61-year-old retired teacher David Anderson. A Vietnam veteran, Anderson told New Hampshire's Concord Monitor that he wrote in Kerry's name because the senator, also a veteran, understands the folly of carrying on a failed war. "I feel a commander, the president of the United States, ought to be a veteran," explained Anderson, who says his top priority is getting US troops out of Iraq.
Go read the whole thing.
Warms my heart and chills Karl Rove's.
PDiddie wrote:There really wasn't any conceivable reason for an Independent in NH to write in a Democrat on a Republican ballot when he could simply vote in the Democratic primary...
Well, the reason would be, for an anti-Bush-minded Independent, to create stories like these ... <grins>
But nebbermind, I read your article and it sounds convincing. It was the political geography of it - up to 37% of Republicans rejecting Bush in a historically moderate bastion - that convinced me. Cool.
Meanwhile ... a new poll
Quote:American Research Group Poll. Jan. 27-29, 2004. N=768 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.5 (total sample).
"What if the election for president were being held between George W. Bush, the Republican, and John Kerry, the Democrat, for whom would you vote: Bush or Kerry?" Names rotated
ALL
George W. Bush 46%
John Kerry 47%
Unsure 7%
Republicans
George W. Bush 89%
John Kerry 3%
Unsure 8%
Democrats
George W. Bush 12%
John Kerry 81%
Unsure 7%
Independents
George W. Bush 39%
John Kerry 55%
Unsure 6%
Make that 56% for Kerry. I'm also an Independent. LOL
Huh - there need to be eight of you to make 1% in that poll!
nimh, I know. But a guy can try, can't he? he, he, he....
Well, you might of course just have been the eighth ... ;-)
CBS has Edwards way out front in SC -- completely the opposite of the one-point affair Zogby claims:
Edwards 30%
Kerry 18%
Clark 11%
Sharpton 11%
Dean 10%
Lieberman 3%
Don't know 16%
PDiddie wrote:There really wasn't any conceivable reason for an Independent in NH to write in a Democrat on a Republican ballot when he could simply vote in the Democratic primary... [..]
Go read the whole thing.
Warms my heart and chills Karl Rove's.

Hate to rain on your parade after all ...
Kausfiles quotes the explanation USA Today suggested - "it was "Democrats who voted in the Republican primary in the last election, drawn by John McCain, only to find themselves automatically registered as Republicans this time", that did it.
Plus, several people e-mailed him to point out that, back in 1984, Ronald Reagan also only got 86% in New Hampshire - with
5,3% casting a write-in vote for Gary Hart in the Republican primaries.
Report Shows Dean Campaign Spent $31.7 Million in 2003
February 1, 2004 - New York Times
Report Shows Dean Campaign Spent $31.7 Million in 2003
By GLEN JUSTICE
WASHINGTON, Jan. 31 ?- Howard Dean's high-spending campaign rolled through $31.7 million last year, before a single vote was ever cast, according to a report released Saturday.
The campaign raised $41 million in 2003 and carried almost $9.7 million into the new year before a spending spree in Iowa and New Hampshire emptied Dr. Dean's wallet without producing victories.
Last week, officials said the campaign, which is not running television advertisements and has temporarily suspended staff salaries, had about $3 million left.
"We spent a lot of money building a broad national organization," said Sarah Leonard, a campaign spokeswoman. "We had to spend a great deal of money in summer and fall just to introduce Governor Dean."
The report showed millions in expenses for advertising, direct mail, transportation and staff. Among the payments was about $7.2 million for media expenses to Trippi McMahon Squire Media since March, according to PoliticalMoneyLine, which tracks campaign finance.
Joe Trippi, Dr. Dean's former campaign manager, is a partner at the firm, though he was on a hiatus to deal with the campaign. Mr. Trippi left the campaign this week, following the two primary losses and the hiring of Roy Neel, a former White House aide and lobbyist, as the new campaign chief.
The report does not say how much of what the firm received was spent to buy advertising. Mr. Trippi said that most of the money was spent on advertisements, though he did not cite specifics.
"All that is money paid to stations," he said. "That's buy money."
Dr. Dean's expenditures have drawn awe from rivals and political analysts, who have watched him fall from the best-financed Democrat in the race to a candidate scrambling for money.
"That's a lot of money," said Donna Brazile, who ran Al Gore's campaign in 2000. "I can't imagine spending that much."
Dr. Dean's report to the Federal Election Commission shows that the campaign raised almost $16 million and spent nearly $18.8 million in the fourth quarter. It was the first time his expenses exceeded his contributions. The campaign also reported about $1.2 million in debt.
The campaign made efforts to shore up its finances this week, reaching out to reassure donors. It also continues to raise as much as $200,000 a day over the Internet.
"Running for office is expensive," Ms. Leonard said.
I would surmise Dean's campaign team coulda used a little less enthusiasm and a whole lot more experience. The financial straights into which Dean's effort has fallen pretty much confirm the kids were the Junior Varsity team ... years away from Pro Championship calibre. To quote Richard Petty (who was prolly quoting someone else), "Youth and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery"
Yet another poll puts Kerry ahead of Bush ...
Isn't it interesting that Bush is promising to cut the national debt in half by 2009 - after he's long gone. I think most repubs will miss this glaring pronouncement.
cicerone imposter wrote:Isn't it interesting that Bush is promising to cut the national debt in half by 2009 - after he's long gone. I think most repubs will miss this glaring pronouncement.
The debt? Are you sure that shouldn't be "the deficit"?
The latest from
Zogby, where he is now pushing leaners hard. Wish I knew how to line up the numbers better; I included the last the three days'worth of tracking to illustrate the trends:
Arizona
1/30-2/1 1/29-30 1/28-29
Kerry 40 36 36
Clark 27 24 20
Dean 13 14 12
Other 13 13 18
Undecided 5 15 18
Missouri
1/30-2/1 1/29-30 1/28-29
Kerry 50 43 46
Edwards 15 14 13
Dean 9 8 8
Other 11 9 10
Undecided 11 22 21
Oklahoma
1/30-2/1 1/29-30 1/28-29
Clark 28 23 25
Kerry 27 25 22
Edwards 19 16 16
Lieb 7 6 6
Dean 6 6 8
Other 2 2 2
Undecided 12 22 21
South Carolina
1/30-2/1 1/29-30 1/28-29
Edwards 30 24 26
Kerry 25 23 22
Clark 10 8 8
Dean 10 8 9
Sharpton 7 7 6
Other 7 5 4
Undecided 9 23 22
Oklahoma may very well be the most exciting contest of the night; it holds the continuation of Clark's campaign in its result.
New Mexico has swung to Senator Kerry in a big way over the weekend. I believe Edwards may hold on to a victory in South Carolina. Should General Clark drop the Sooner State, he should perhaps drop out. Joementum needs to fold his tent and take it to the house. Congressman Kucinich and Reverend Sharpton could conceivably be Kerry's and Edwards' last remaining debating partners by the end of the week.
Zogby scenarios:
Quote:"If Kerry wins all four states, you don't need me to tell you what it means. But if Edwards wins in South Carolina and polls strongly enough to win delegates in Missouri and Oklahoma, he has some significant regional strength and can certainly make a case to go on. If Clark wins Oklahoma and comes in a strong second in Arizona, he also can move on -- but it is hard to see where. Dean has already conceded these four states, but winning some delegates in one or two states can help his cause in both Michigan and Wisconsin (voting 2/7)"
Thomas, You're right! It's the deficit.
Kerry's numbers in both SC and AZ seem high but who knows. I would have expected Edwards to have higher numbers in OK and MO too.
Well, it'll all be sorted out by this time tomorrow night.
Anyone want to post predictions for who will be out of the race by the weekend? I think Smokin' Joe will be gone by Thursday. He's gotta see the handwriting on the wall. Kucinich has got to throw in the towel too. I figure Dean will wait and see how he does in MI and Sharpton is gonna ride this all the way to the convention.
Yes, tomorrow is the big day for many - not only for the candidates, but for the "real" (American) People.
I can't wait until the day after. I'm just ichin to find out who will win. Who ever wins the majority, is going to get one hell of a bost.