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2004 Elections: Democratic Party Contenders

 
 
PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:49 am
I don't even make your Top Ten, nimh?

*harumph*
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:53 am
Hey! I cant help it! It was an Official Objective Semi-Scientific Research, based on Objective Hard Data - and you dont want me to fiddle with those A2K Search results now, do ya? :-P
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:55 am
PDiddie wrote:
and the rest seem to try not displease anyone from either side.


Yeh, thats what makes American humour seem so unpalatable to my taste (we get both Leno and Letterman here) ...

Here, post-Wim Kan, the comedians seem to try to displease as many from either side as possible! <grins>
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Sofia
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:55 am
<harumph>
<balancing invisible object carefully on tip of nose>
<casually, surrepticiously seeing if all have taken note>
<boil>
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:56 am
LOL!

OK, Sofia, awright already - you just made it to the list ;-)
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 08:58 am
And I thought the left had a lock on humor and compassion, who'd a thunk.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 09:03 am
<serene smile>
<nods>
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 09:04 am
have to agree Sofia should be on the top ten list.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 09:07 am
<basking happily>
Very Happy
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 09:14 am
dyslexia wrote:
have to agree Sofia should be on the top ten list.


hey dys, if you say something funny now you'll even get a (twice) behind your name, and everything! :-)

but - people - i'm sorry - i understand, of course, that you would like me to very much, but i don't think i will make it to update the list every day ...

<winks>
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 10:11 am
I'm crushed.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 10:17 am
You mean to tell me someone needs to have a sense of humor around here? Well, gooolllly...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 10:32 am
Harpe Kerkeling sounds Dutch, btw, but he is gay and German. Ehem, what was I going to say ...

Got it. The situation nimh described, is nearly the same here in Germany.

(And some 'left' comedians are excellent in parodying the social democrats!)
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 10:36 am
not having a sense of humor leaves only the ready availability of suicide, sex and alcohol, as
life's basic consolations
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Scrat
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 11:16 am
Thomas wrote:
Have you considered the possibility that you might just find it hard to appreciate substance that comes from people you disagree with?

Yeah, that's it. Rolling Eyes

Let me ask you something: can you cite for me another example where I have come out strongly against other liberal writers? (Let me save you some time, you can't, because I haven't.) Your assertion is typical, but not correct. I dislike Krugman not because I disagree with his point of view, but because I disagree with his methods and think he is a hack. His drivel appeals only to the converted. Lots of liberal writers give me food for thought. Some even convince me of their position. Krugman teaches me to fear the willingness of liberals to subvert anything, including the truth, to get what they desire.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 01:43 pm
Breaking: Kerry joins Dean in dropping Federal Campaign Financing. More sure to follow, among which no doubt will be vociferous objection from the reamaining contenders. McCain-Feingold is dormant for this campaign, if not effectively dead for all time.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 01:49 pm
Clark can't, he needs the money.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 01:59 pm
Just saw Kerry's statement. He implies he regrets having to do it, but the decision was forced by Dean's abandonment of noble principle to which Kerry in fact subscribes. It sounded indeed like a hearfelt and dismayed eulogy for Campaign Finance. With the possible exception of Gephardt, the rest are now somewhere between supporting players and spectators. As usual, principle is subordinated to Principal when it comes to finance.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 02:03 pm
I don't blame them with a campaign war chest that would shame even Machiavelli in Dubya's pocket.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2003 02:05 pm
Remember the research about those generous people in the "red" states? Well, IT'S TRUE, IT'S TRUE. The GOP are so-o-o-o-o kind and generous and here's proof:


Quote:
G.O.P. Leader Solicits Money for Charity Tied to Conventionpart of the money would go to pay for late-night convention parties, a luxury suite during President Bush's speech at Madison Square Garden and yacht cruises.

And so campaign finance watchdogs say Mr. DeLay's effort can be seen as, above all, a creative maneuver around the recently enacted law meant to limit the ability of federal officials to raise large donations known as soft money.

"They are using the idea of helping children as a blatant cover for financing activities in connection with a convention with huge unlimited, undisclosed, unregulated contributions," said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a Washington group that helped push through the recent overhaul of the campaign finance laws.

Other lawmakers may well follow Mr. DeLay's lead. Already Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader, is planning to hold a concert and a reception in conjunction with the convention as a way of raising money for AIDS charities.

Mr. DeLay's charity, Celebrations for Children Inc., was set up in September and has no track record of work. Mr. DeLay is not a formal official of the charity, but its managers are Mr. DeLay's daughter, Dani DeLay Ferro; Craig Richardson, a longtime adviser; and Rob Jennings, a Republican fund-raiser. Mr. Richardson said the managers would be paid by the new charity.

Mr. Richardson said the goal was to give 75 percent of the money it raised to children's charities, including some in the New York area. He said the charity also planned to hold other events at the Super Bowl.

But because the money collected will go into a nonprofit organization, donors get a tax break. And Mr. DeLay will never have to account publicly for who contributed, which campaign finance experts say shields those who may be trying to win favor with one of the most powerful lawmakers in Washington.

Mr. Richardson dismissed such criticism. He said that every convention had parties and that by doing this Mr. DeLay was giving some money to worthy causes. He said Mr. DeLay had a long record of providing money to neglected children through his own DeLay Foundation for Kids, based in Houston.

"We are using the opportunity to throw parties, which happen anyway, but to give money back to abused and neglected children," Mr. Richardson said.

The brochure was obtained by The New York Times last Friday and aspects of it were reported yesterday in the newspaper Roll Call in Washington..... [there's more, much more!!]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/politics/14DELA.html


WOW! Now there's a group of conservatives worthy of respect. So honest, so good, so CHARITABLE!
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